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NEWS: News.com.au - 28/07/08 'Meet our supermarket junkies'

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Meet our supermarket junkies
By Mark Schliebs
July 28, 2008 10:00am

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Supermarket junkies are legally buying powerful opiates straight off store shelves to brew "poppy seed tea" which provides a 12-hour high, a NEWS.com.au investigation has found.

Australians who drink the tea claim the best poppy seeds can be found at wholesalers, but many big-name supermarkets often have good "batches".

"Poppy seed tea is very much like morphine and a hell of a lot cheaper," a 19-year-old Brisbane user said.

A 17-year-old user from Adelaide said if "you do this right, you get f**ked up… This is the best high I’ve had for such a small price".

NEWS.com.au’s investigations have uncovered a subculture of supermarket drug addicts exploiting lax rules and regulations to develop habits with side-effects as deadly as illegal street drugs.

Our inquiries have found:

* Legal opiates on sale in many supermarkets across the country.

* Claims that retirees are recruited to cruise pharmacies as "pseudo-runners" for chemicals needed to make drugs like speed and ice.

* "Doctor shopping" rife with quarterly surveys showing up to 45,000 Australians going from doctor to doctor to obtain prescriptions for powerful drugs with minimal warnings from Medicare.

Enlarge Drugs in Australia: Our in-depth interactive

Poppy seed tea drinkers have told NEWS.com.au enough morphine or codeine can be extracted from the seeds to achieve a high that lasts well over 12 hours.

"To me, using many different drugs is like being a wine connoisseur – tasting many different varieties, learning the subtle differences between drugs that are similar and, of course, having favourites that I seek out and always return to," said one user, known as Yosef.

There is "a huge variation in the active ingredients (in supermarket poppy seeds)… which are opiates," says Professor Steve Allsop, director of the National Drug Research Institute.

"It's not common, but there have been cases where consumers have become addicted," he said.

Others have warned an addiction to poppy seed tea could be fatal.

One US user’s father, known as Tom, created the "Poppy Seed Tea Can Kill You" website with his wife after his 17-year-old son died of a morphine and codeine overdose after drinking the tea.

"It is really amazing to me that one of the most controlled substances out there - morphine - is in a way readily available to kids... at the supermarket," Tom has said.

In Australia there are no restrictions on the chemicals contained in poppy seeds, according to regulatory body Food Standards Australia New Zealand (FSANZ).

Inquiries to the federal Health Department were not returned.

Gateway drug

After five out of 24 patients at a drug clinic admitted their main source of opiates was from poppy seeds, health officials in New Zealand decided that the tea could be used to wean addicts off heroin.

"(Poppy seed tea) could be considered favourably within harm reduction philosophies, because of its low cost, legal availability and oral route of administration," the officials wrote in the Drug and Alcohol Review in May, 2007.

But the researchers also said the tea could also act as a "gateway drug" that could lead to opiate dependence.

RMIT medical expert Marc Cohen believes any addiction to poppy seed tea would not be comparable to a heroin dependency. "I don’t know that a heroin addict would be able to sustain themselves on poppy seeds," he said.

Colette McGrath, the clinical services manager at Sydney Medically Supervised Injecting Centre in Kings Cross, said she had heard of the tea being used by heroin addicts.

However users, along with medical experts, say the amount of opiates contained in poppy seeds depends on the batch and brand. Many users have sworn off the seeds because of this variability.

Doctor-shopping

Experts warned there were more reliable methods used to score drugs – including from doctors.

Prescription medicines like benzodiazepines (including Valium) and morphine are being routinely and easily obtained by "doctor-shoppers" who are scoring the same medicine from a range of different GPs.

Medicare told NEWS.com.au that Australia's GPs were only warned about a small fraction of people it identifies as doctor-shoppers.

Medicare maintains a special database used to identify patients that seem to go from doctor to doctor, scoring prescriptions for powerful painkillers – but the government organisation admits that very few are ever brought to the attention of GPs.

"In any given quarter, the number of patients identified under the program’s criteria range from 15,000 to 45,000 nationally," a Medicare spokeswoman said.

"It is not possible – nor necessary – to contact all of these patients or their doctors. Medicare only provides notification regarding the highest risk patients – about 5 per cent of those identified."

Once the alerts go out to the appropriate medical clinics, it is up to individual doctors to decide if a patient should receive any more prescriptions.

Widespread misuse

A Victorian parliamentary inquiry into the misuse of medicines said doctor shoppers accounted for up to 20 per cent of all Australian prescriptions for certain medicines.

"'Doctor shoppers' account for significant proportions of all the prescriptions filled on the PBS for benzodiazepines and narcotic analgesics, including almost one in five prescriptions filled for injectable formulations of morphine and pethidine," the inquiry found.

A doctor-shopper from Melbourne who would visit four GPs a day told the inquiry it was hard work scoring prescriptions – but she thought it was worth it.

"It was like I had a full-time job – 24 hours a day, seven days a week of going through the Yellow Pages," she said. "I spread out as far as I could go and then I would repeat some sort of format to go back to those doctors and around again and again."

The NDRI's Professor Allsop said any vulnerability in systems such as the Medicare doctor-shopping program and the anti-amphetamine making Project STOP would be quickly recognised.

"If there’s a weak link in the system, people will exploit it," Professor Allsop said.

Pharmacist and author Gail Bell agrees. After several years of dealing with people looking to score drugs from her pharmacy on the NSW Central Coast, she has noticed a significant change: they are getting older and are losing their shadiness.

Pseudo-runners

Ms Bell says retired people are being paid to buy chemicals used to make drugs such as ice and speed. "What I’m noticing is the usual daggy (and) edgy-looking pseudo-runner that we were seeing years ago have disappeared because they stand out a mile away now," Ms Bell said.

"What surprised me more than anything was learning that most of the pseudo-runners up here are recruited from the clubs, and they’re usually either retired or semi-retired.

"They’re probably the most invisible people in the community: a middle-aged person in a cardigan asking for some pseudoephedrine doesn’t ring anybody’s bells."

She claims drug makers are hanging around the poker machine areas of clubs, seeking out potential "pseudo-runners". "They just ask people if they want to make some easy money by doing shopping for them," Ms Bell said.

"They quite happily hand over their drivers licences (at the pharmacy)… whether they use their own once or they’re supplied with fake drivers licences by their employers, I don’t know."

A New South Wales police spokesperson said "so-called 'pseudo-runners' are not dominated by any one demographic".

The Project STOP system, developed and maintained by Shaun Singleton from the Pharmacy Guild of Queensland, records every driver’s license number used to by pseudoephedrine. Other forms of ID are recorded and cross-referenced on a database to check whether multiple purchases are being made.

In many states, identification is not necessary to make the purchase, but the pharmacist can decide to refuse to sell the drug to a certain person.

"The most targeted drug in Australia is only denied about 3 per cent of the time," Project STOP's Mr Singleton said. "That means 97 per cent of people (who) come into a pharmacy and ask for a product, leave with it."

Around 6500 transactions are recorded in the system each day.

'We need help'

When NEWS.com.au first reported that thousands of Australians had become addicted to over-the-counter painkillers such as Nurofen Plus, many users wrote in to share their experiences.

"I started out taking Nurofen Plus for pain over five years ago, today I am an addict," a Perth woman said.

"I am a normal person and I still function but it has got to the stage where I could have done serious damage to my body. I have now gone to a doctor for help and have to have tests done. I have a huge task ahead of me to get rid of this curse."

Another said: "I've never been addicted to anything, let alone pain killers… so believe me when I say I did become addicted to Nurofen Plus whilst suffering from terrible pain last year.

"It was the only thing that worked, but even after the pain was gone, I found it hard to stop. Without the pain, the drug had a calming effect and was similar to that of some recreational drugs."

The National Drugs and Poisons Schedule Committee (NDPSC) said the story and subsequent coverage "highlighted a range of issues relating to the misuse and addiction potential of this product in Australia and the UK".

Earlier this month, the NDPSC made a decision regarding the availability of drugs containing codeine and the anti-inflammatory ibuprofen.

The decision has yet to be made public.

News.com.au
 
There must be some seriously weak minded people out there to claim they are addicted to codeine and call it a "curse". Withdrawal symptoms are no worse than a mild hangover. Also, that pharmacist sounds like a paranoid douche. Overall though, sound article.

Also:

"Earlier this month, the NDPSC made a decision regarding the availability of drugs containing codeine and the anti-inflammatory ibuprofen."

Does this mean that codeine/paracetamol preparations are of no concern to them? 'Big sigh of relief'. Mersyndol is cheaper anyway =)
 
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He forgot to mention how hit and miss the tea is; should have checked out the poppy seed tea thread we have. =D
 
If you leave your tea long enough. It ferments.

Sale on now, Buy morphine, get alcohol free! Stocks are limited.
 
Interesting about the pensioners shopping on the drug labs behalf. Most aged pensioners I know would be way to paranoid and distrusting of others to get involved in that sort of shit.

Something tells me the ones who do it maybe getting rewarded with gaming machine time
 
Where on earth do they get these idiot users from. Honestly who discloses a source (legal or otherwise) to someone from news.com.au and says 'yeh man its the best high ever'. wtf.
 
I hope there isn't a big media blowout on the poppy seed tea. I've become quite fond of it recently, and it's bad enough already when buying a large amount of packets.

At any rate, the mention of the tea was fairly minimal in this article, probably not enough to cause the "think about the children" crowd to get up in arms about it. However, I do think a number of people will have read this, and then be tempted to go and try the tea themselves. Without the correct method of preparation (which, sadly, is not mentioned in the article) I think there's now a large potential for danger, as people have no idea how much is required for an average dose. People could easily take an OD amount unknowingly, or simply prepare it in a way that induces nausea.

Recently when buying some seeds, a teenager at the checkout started telling me how some people "eat" heaps of poppy seeds and get a "drunk" like effect. I wasn't about to show off my knowledge of the tea, when I had casually mentioned that the many numerous packets were for a "cake". However, I don't even want to begin to imagine how ill you would feel from eating the seeds as opposed to making a tea from them and discarding the seeds. I can only assume that this kind of misinformation stems from articles of this nature, and it's only a matter of time before someone gets seriously ill because of the media's selfish articles that care little for facts or advice, and prefer to sensationalize everything to maximize their sales.
 
KingConvenience said:
There must be some seriously weak minded people out there to claim they are addicted to codeine and call it a "curse".

i wouldn't call it a curse but codeine was my first addiction at age 13 (eating forte as I had broken my leg).

Of course at that age I didn't know but when I stopped eating them I remember going through an acute phase of withdrawal. The worse thing was that no one told me what was happening.

Its only really in hindsight, after going through heroin addiction in my late teens that showed me me that the difference between a codeine withdrawal and a heroin one is absolutely nothing.
 
old people can be drug addicts as well. Just because they look normal don't mean shit.

Age is deceptive, appearances more so
 
I don't know why this Mark Schliebs character is fishing around on Bluelight for stories, but it reeks of poor journalism. I was asked to contribte to this story, which I didn't, but it was indicated that it would be fair and reasonable- dig the fucken headline!

I'd love to know in what way Mr Schliebs thinks he's helping society as opposed to simply making things harder for people. Oh well, he gets his gimpy article printed....:|
 
I read things like this and it makes me really quite sad to be affiliated, as a journalist, with people and organizations that would write something like this article. Its a scare piece that doesn't quite do it.

I'd like to see an article on drugs that is spun a good way instead of a pathetic scare attempt. When I've written articles on drugs I try to paint them as positive or saving positive neutral.

Reporting is supposed to be objective, but so much of today's journalism follows Fox News' lead.

Disgusting.
 
eggman said:
Interesting about the pensioners shopping on the drug labs behalf. Most aged pensioners I know would be way to paranoid and distrusting of others to get involved in that sort of shit.

Something tells me the ones who do it maybe getting rewarded with gaming machine time
yea or some viagra :p

i love how tabloid the journalism in oz has become


:(
 
KingConvenience said:
There must be some seriously weak minded people out there to claim they are addicted to codeine and call it a "curse". Withdrawal symptoms are no worse than a mild hangover.

Not true at all. Codeine withdrawal can be very uncomfortable, especially at high doses (300mgx twice a day) Comparing it to a mild hangover is a crazy understatement.

It doesn't compare to a heavy heroin habit or benzo withdrawal, but still.
 
KingConvenience said:
There must be some seriously weak minded people out there to claim they are addicted to codeine and call it a "curse". Withdrawal symptoms are no worse than a mild hangover.

As someone who was addicted to codeine for six months with my tolerance getting up to 800mg and more a day, I'd have to disagree with you. Obviously there are worse WD's out there, but it wasn't a walk in the park by any means.
 
After 18 months or so of daily codeine use, I found the withdrawal effects to be almost unbearable. Admittedly though, I am fairly weak minded - if I wasn't, I probably wouldn't have ended up being dependent on them for so long.

I shudder to think about how bad the withdrawal effects would be from stronger opiates.
 
Mr Blonde said:
As someone who was addicted to codeine for six months with my tolerance getting up to 800mg and more a day, I'd have to disagree with you. Obviously there are worse WD's out there, but it wasn't a walk in the park by any means.

How long are you "supposed" to use benzos for to get withdrawal effects? Because I've had periods of 1-3 months using 5mg+ of clonazepam a day with no withdrawal effects. Maybe I'm just a freak.
 
Mr Blonde said:
As someone who was addicted to codeine for six months with my tolerance getting up to 800mg and more a day, I'd have to disagree with you. Obviously there are worse WD's out there, but it wasn't a walk in the park by any means.

How crap this article is I can't begin to tell you....

Anyway, re: codeine withdrawal.

Codeine withdrawal follows the exact same path as heroin withdrawal.

The severity of withdrawals is dependent on daily dose, duration and udnerlying health. For someone taking large amounts over years, the withdrawals are as bad as it gets.

Having supported people coming off smack and codeine (1000 - 1800 mg a day) I can assure you there is no difference.
 
Ah k, am mistaken. I had no idea people were capable of taking even upwards of 1000mg of codeine a day. That is just epic. Atm on 200mg max daily and that keeps me pretty chilled so have sustained that for about 6 months. (sorry for off topic but) how on earth can people afford 1800mg a day, that is around 7.5 packets of panafen... well sure if you take that much then yeah you're a dead-set addict and will have some monstrous withdrawal period. If I took that much I wouldn't be able to shit properly for a month.

PS: the aim is to stop tolerance from occurring, so taking 1-2 days off a week works pretty well and gets all the built up shit out of your bowels.
 
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