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TheodoreRoosevelt
05-02-2007, 17:37
Isn't Uncle Lester that guy in the Southwest, like Arizona or somewhere around there?

He got into alot of legal trouble right? Like you can't get those books anymore, et cetera.

haribo1
05-02-2007, 18:06
The best use of L-meth is to oxidise it back to PMK & make raecemic meth. Then do a partial crystalization using tartaric acid. 95% D.

Jeebus Mic
29-05-2007, 08:15
Extract the shit or just eat a vicks cotton and let us know if it works. I wouldnt recommend eating the cotton. Heres some instructions on extracting from the cotton..these instructions are for a Benzedrex inhaler.. will it work for vicks?

(1) Boil a half cup of water (preferably distilled) in the microwave. While waiting, remove the cotton from an inhaler, cut it into small pieces and put the pieces in a second small container... e.g. a clear glass coffee cup or small (~25mL) beaker.

(2) When the water is boiling, pour 20-30mL over the cotton and stir briefly. Add 15-20 drops of ~30% muriatic acid. The acidity should be moderate, but not strong enough to burn skin or mucus membranes on short term contact. Stir very well, and let the mixture stand for 5 or 10 minutes.

(3) Empty the liquid onto a smooth, flat microwave-safe dinner plate (with edges that keep the liquid in the center). Squeeze the cotton out also, preferably using gloves in case the solution is more acidic than intended. Discard the cotton.

(4) Put the dinner plate in the microwave and zap on full power until the liquid completely evaporates. You should hear a crackling sound when it's almost gone. Zapping too long could result in the plate cracking, so be sure to check often.

(5) Remove plate carefully using gloves or a potholder, and let sit until it's cool (10-15 minutes). Using a razor blade, scrape off dried propylhexedrine crystals until they're in a pile. Microwave another 30 seconds or so to drive out any remaining moisture.

(6) Optional but recommended -- add the crystals to 20-50 mL distilled water and redissolve. The resulting solution should have a neutral pH and can be consumed, squirted up the nose, etc (further dilution may be necessary). If liquid is consumed with a couple large glasses of water, it's unlikely to cause the severe nausea that eating the cotton often does, although some queasiness is still possible.


I am trying this tonigt! I just finished the final step where the water evaporated from the plate and he crystals are waiting to be scraped. My god, can you imagine if this is as good as methamphtamine?

Stargazer59
29-05-2007, 08:33
http://www.ajpe.org/legacy/pdfs/aj6102179.pdf

read this, it will give you an idea of how dopamine works, and the levo, and dextro isomers.... etc

Will01996
31-05-2007, 23:49
There is a nifty nasal decongestant product available for sale at practically every pharmacy I've seen, called the Vicks Inhaler. On the packaging it lists the active ingredient as 50 mg of 'levmetamfetamine', however I know that this is actually the L stereoisomer of methamphetamine. The Controlled Substance Act clearly states that "methamphetamine, its salts, isomers, and salts of its isomers" are listed as Schedule II substances. Do stereoisomers not legally count as 'isomers'? If so, why is d-methamphetamine (also known as the ADD medication 'Desoxyn') Schedule II? If somebody were to gather a large quantity of inhalers and extract the meth out *without chemically altering the drug*, would they be guilty of manufacturing a controlled substance? Even though what they actually possess is a legally obtained OTC drug? I must be missing a huge piece to the puzzle.

l - methamphetamine does NOT have the effect of d - methamphetamine.

A long time ago (when my father fought in Korea) he said they bought inhalers called BENDEDRINE. They took the cotton out and soaked it in a cup of coffee and drank the coffee to stay awake.

When the government required removal of the d- methamphetamine out of Vicks Inhalers they have such a weak stimulant effect that you would go broke buying enough of them to get a stimulant effect.

I read an "urban legand" that if you took the cottorn from 20 Vicks inhalers and soaked it in water, drank the water, it was equivalent to 5 mg. of dexedrine. Not sure if that is true.

I am NOT a chemist, but most stimulants that have value start with "D -" or "DL-".

DiLuc
01-06-2007, 00:57
I have used the vicks inhaler a few times. I did make me feel really good, but had a couple of draw backs: my heart rate was really high and they make my ass leak which really sucks since it somehow liquifies the shit so that I could hold it in and my home (fresh boxers) was 30 minutes away both times.

scriptx
28-03-2008, 21:26
Extract the shit or just eat a vicks cotton and let us know if it works. I wouldnt recommend eating the cotton. Heres some instructions on extracting from the cotton..these instructions are for a Benzedrex inhaler.. will it work for vicks?

(1) Boil a half cup of water (preferably distilled) in the microwave. While waiting, remove the cotton from an inhaler, cut it into small pieces and put the pieces in a second small container... e.g. a clear glass coffee cup or small (~25mL) beaker.

(2) When the water is boiling, pour 20-30mL over the cotton and stir briefly. Add 15-20 drops of ~30% muriatic acid. The acidity should be moderate, but not strong enough to burn skin or mucus membranes on short term contact. Stir very well, and let the mixture stand for 5 or 10 minutes.

(3) Empty the liquid onto a smooth, flat microwave-safe dinner plate (with edges that keep the liquid in the center). Squeeze the cotton out also, preferably using gloves in case the solution is more acidic than intended. Discard the cotton.

(4) Put the dinner plate in the microwave and zap on full power until the liquid completely evaporates. You should hear a crackling sound when it's almost gone. Zapping too long could result in the plate cracking, so be sure to check often.

(5) Remove plate carefully using gloves or a potholder, and let sit until it's cool (10-15 minutes). Using a razor blade, scrape off dried propylhexedrine crystals until they're in a pile. Microwave another 30 seconds or so to drive out any remaining moisture.

(6) Optional but recommended -- add the crystals to 20-50 mL distilled water and redissolve. The resulting solution should have a neutral pH and can be consumed, squirted up the nose, etc (further dilution may be necessary). If liquid is consumed with a couple large glasses of water, it's unlikely to cause the severe nausea that eating the cotton often does, although some queasiness is still possible.

Thanks for the extraction method. One question, though. I couldn't find any muriatic acid at Wal-Mart so I purchased The Works toilet bowl cleaner (20% HCl active ingredient; 80% other inert ingredients). What's your opinion on using this cleaner liquid for HCl?

Also, I noticed that my crystals would turn (and remain) blue (the same color as the toilet bowl cleaner :S ) when left out to dry; furthermore, they turned blue and faded away when mixed in water.

negrogesic
28-03-2008, 21:50
Muriatic acid is available almost anywhere (although concentrations range, and obviously you would need to add 2x the amount with the 15%). I would be hesitant to use the toilet bowl cleaner that you mentioned...

johanneschimpo
28-03-2008, 22:29
Thanks for the extraction method. One question, though. I couldn't find any muriatic acid at Wal-Mart so I purchased The Works toilet bowl cleaner (20% HCl active ingredient; 80% other inert ingredients). What's your opinion on using this cleaner liquid for HCl?

Also, I noticed that my crystals would turn (and remain) blue (the same color as the toilet bowl cleaner :S ) when left out to dry; furthermore, they turned blue and faded away when mixed in water.

Hardware store

scriptx
28-03-2008, 22:30
Muriatic acid is available almost anywhere (although concentrations range, and obviously you would need to add 2x the amount with the 15%). I would be hesitant to use the toilet bowl cleaner that you mentioned...

Me as well, however it seems to have worked to an extent. Some people report being high on it for several hours (like ~4); but for me it only lasted about 1, tops. Could that be due to Propylhexedrine not being bound to HCl (ie: not enough HCl) and thus losing some of it during the other steps in the extraction process?

Would a naphtha wash remove the extra inactive shit from the cleaner and the cotton swab itself?

win_termute
27-09-2008, 09:06
Do Not Use Toilet Bowl Cleaner Wtf