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TheUltimateFixx

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So I'm gonna get hitched with the guy I've been with since the start of 2014.

At least that's the fucking PLAN.
...Only some very SLIGHT obstacles here.

1. He lives in Brazil where the sociopathic and wilfully incompetent government has completely fucked up their pandemic response so is currently on the red list for travelling.

2. I live in the UK with an equally sociopathic incompetent government making us red-listed to most other countries as well.

3. Before the UK left the EU, I had the right as an EU citizen to bring a 3rd country partner over to join me WITHOUT having to abide by the ridiculous rule newly introduced by the British Home Office, which stipulates that for some reason the UK - resident half of the relationship has to cover the living expenses for BOTH all by themselves.
This has already led to situations where for example, an Englishwoman who works as a part - time teacher can't any longer be with her Pakistani citizen husband who is a literal fucking BRAIN SURGEON easily earning several times the required amount per year ; purely because HE isn't also a British national. Ok I have a ton of problems that will reliably prevent me from EVER earning even CLOSE to the £18,000 + mark that's now required.

4. Likewise the Home Office have introduced an Australian-style 'points - based' system of merit for any aspiring 3rd country foreign resident. Basically grading human beings by their economic usefulness. This even excludes professions like nurses which this country right now is in dire need of, because apparently that's classed as an 'unskilled' job. They only want the very top level potential earners in this country now. My partner has worked in the building trade and the police so has more applicable 'skills' than myself ;but because he was taught on the job in both cases and entered without formal qualifications due to poverty, and also these jobs don't command ridiculous earnings even WITH formal qualification, those skills are deemed worthless.

5. He's had two shots of the vaccine but all he could get was Sinovac which is vastly inferior to other approved vaccines. He has COPD requiring a medicated inhaler on a regular basis ; is pre - diabetic and overweight. His survival chances should he catch it aren't great.

6. Right now basically I stopped letting myself dream of a better life together because it seems so far off the cards.
If I get to see him one more time before he dies that's all I still hold out hope for.

... And this whole damn situation is what got me suicidal the other day.
Like thanks to meeting him I could FINALLY look into the future with joy and anticipation instead of terror and despondency ; and now it seems like right on the threshold a pandemic plus fucking xenophobic politics will snatch away what hope of a life worth living I ever felt that I had.
 
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Best of luck.
He lives in Brazil
Well, hate to bring it up but consider getting life insurance on him after getting hitched... or at least think about it.It is not my intention to instill a seed of greed here but if something does happen (god forbid) at least there will be means to travel and take care of "business" if it does.
We are both "healthy" and look to live forever but know this isn't living in reality. We have policies on each other in case one leaves as we are almost exclusively each others support system and it will be crippling to either when this happens. It is common and I assume you know this but throwing it out there.
The bright side? Ya can go to brazil and visit more often or just move there if inclined. Sounds like it could be a very exciting and growth potential.
Congrats and whats his name?
 
Best of luck.

Well, hate to bring it up but consider getting life insurance on him after getting hitched... or at least think about it.It is not my intention to instill a seed of greed here but if something does happen (god forbid) at least there will be means to travel and take care of "business" if it does.
We are both "healthy" and look to live forever but know this isn't living in reality. We have policies on each other in case one leaves as we are almost exclusively each others support system and it will be crippling to either when this happens. It is common and I assume you know this but throwing it out there.
The bright side? Ya can go to brazil and visit more often or just move there if inclined. Sounds like it could be a very exciting and growth potential.
Congrats and whats his name?
Ohh you clearly have no idea of what it's like over there. Forget sex, sand and samba. Where he lives it's not safe for me as a recognizable gringo to even go round the corner to the local store by myself.

When I visit (the one month of the year we can spend together when he has his annual holidays) he escorts me everywhere; I can never set foot outside of the house by myself safely. Several times as we walk down the street talking he had to caution me to shut up so potential muggers don't hear me speak English which would make me an instant mark.
(And criminals in Brazil generally shoot first and ask you to put your hands up after.)

I heard gunshots most nights in the close neighbourhood. I saw people being arrested and the aftermath of someone's (likely fatal) mugging like a discarded rucksack with everything spilt out on the pavement every other day while staying at his place. He can't afford to move to a 'better part' of the country and I'd have to essentially stay caged living where he is.
Also he desperately wants to leave his country he can't stand it there anymore. During the past year I've had to talk him down from immediate suicide TWICE by promising him he could join me and that that was worth living for. A promise circumstances may make it impossible for me to keep.
... Did I also mention he has untreated schizophrenia into the bargain which comes with a very high suicide risk.
I feel like I'm dying with anguish and fear every single day right now.

PS and his name's Daniel.
 
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@The UltimateFixx

Oh no, this is heartbreaking stuff :(

I wish i could offer some kind of advice to your situation but i have none. I just offer my sympathy to you and your partner. I hope there is some way you could see each other soon.
 
Love conquers ALL my friend.

I know this for a fact.

I wish you the best of luck and life!
You will be in my prayers.
God Bless!
❤️
... Yeah I used to buy into that pleasant fantasy before this thing called reality intervened.

If my life was a tale then we both suffered enough to 'finally' get our just rewards.
Well sadly that's not how real life works.
Real life can easily screw you at the last moment for no reason.

Like, grew up dirt - poor and your only desire was to spare your children that -?
So you slave life - long in a poverty wage job, FINALLY get to buy your offspring a nice house. All your efforts and sacrifice rewarded. Only the next year a massive flood washes the house away and you're reduced back down to nothing.
THAT'S what real life is like for anyone on this planet that doesn't have the wealth to just buy themselves whatever they require under whatever circumstances.

You don't get 'rewarded' for being principled or holding out heroically or suffering hardships you never deserved.
There's no justice anywhere there's just money that can buy you power and a pretence of virtue.
 
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@The UltimateFixx

That was pretty cold. But also the truth. Don't give up hope. Never give up hope. Think about the joy you would feel, when you finally meet your partner again? It is completely possible for that to happen. But i understand, there are obstacles now. Big ones. Still, don't give up hope!
 
So I'm gonna get hitched with the guy I've been with since the start of 2014.

At least that's the fucking PLAN.
...Only some very SLIGHT obstacles here.

1. He lives in Brazil where the sociopathic and wilfully incompetent government has completely fucked up their pandemic response so is currently on the red list for travelling.

2. I live in the UK with an equally sociopathic incompetent government making us red-listed to most other countries as well.

3. Before the UK left the EU, I had the right as an EU citizen to bring a 3rd country partner over to join me WITHOUT having to abide by the ridiculous rule newly introduced by the British Home Office, which stipulates that for some reason the UK - resident half of the relationship has to cover the living expenses for BOTH all by themselves.
This has already led to situations where for example, an Englishwoman who works as a part - time teacher can't any longer be with her Pakistani citizen husband who is a literal fucking BRAIN SURGEON easily earning several times the required amount per year ; purely because HE isn't also a British national. Ok I have a ton of problems that will reliably prevent me from EVER earning even CLOSE to the £18,000 + mark that's now required.

4. Likewise the Home Office have introduced an Australian-style 'points - based' system of merit for any aspiring 3rd country foreign resident. Basically grading human beings by their economic usefulness. This even excludes professions like nurses which this country right now is in dire need of, because apparently that's classed as an 'unskilled' job. They only want the very top level potential earners in this country now. My partner has worked in the building trade and the police so has more applicable 'skills' than myself ;but because he was taught on the job in both cases and entered without formal qualifications due to poverty, and also these jobs don't command ridiculous earnings even WITH formal qualification, those skills are deemed worthless.

5. He's had two shots of the vaccine but all he could get was Sinovac which is vastly inferior to other approved vaccines. He has COPD requiring a medicated inhaler on a regular basis ; is pre - diabetic and overweight. His survival chances should he catch it aren't great.

6. Right now basically I stopped letting myself dream of a better life together because it seems so far off the cards.
If I get to see him one more time before he dies that's all I still hold out hope for.

... And this whole damn situation is what got me suicidal the other day.
Like thanks to meeting him I could FINALLY look into the future with joy and anticipation instead of terror and despondency ; and now it seems like right on the threshold a pandemic plus fucking xenophobic politics will snatch away what hope of a life worth living I ever felt that I had.
Since he is from Brasil, would it be easier for him emigrate to Portugal and you go see each other that way? I have read about Brasilian people doing this.
 
... Yeah I used to buy into that pleasant fantasy before this thing called reality intervened.

If my life was a tale then we both suffered enough to 'finally' get our just rewards.
Well sadly that's not how real life works.
Real life can easily screw you at the last moment for no reason.

Like, grew up dirt - poor and your only desire was to spare your children that -?
So you slave life - long in a poverty wage job, FINALLY get to buy your offspring a nice house. All your efforts and sacrifice rewarded. Only the next year a massive flood washes the house away and you're reduced back down to nothing.
THAT'S what real life is like for anyone on this planet that doesn't have the wealth to just buy themselves whatever they require under whatever circumstances.

You don't get 'rewarded' for being principled or holding out heroically or suffering hardships you never deserved.
There's no justice anywhere there's just money that can buy you power and a pretence of virtue.

Did that really happen to you?

I truly believe people are rewarded for their suffering of hardships, I look at them as challenges that need to be overcome with faith that things will work out in the end. I’ve had plenty, and I still love my life. Karma is real, even if you don’t see the consequences of someone else’s actions.

Life is fucking rough no doubt, but those that go through it with a smile on their face tend to eventually get what they need.

-GC
 
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Did that really happen to you?
I wasn't talking about my own situation SPECIFICALLY in that statement ; just mentioning generic scenarios of totally unjust deserts that happen to people every single day. And you reach a point where you CAN'T be reasonably expected to be optimistic.

It's called accepting reality, where things simply ARE as they are, and as unfair as they are, for no damn higher reason; and no amount of pain is gonna guarantee you some well - deserved happy ever - after, because we DON'T exist in a magic fairy tale where everything balances out and gets neatly tied up for our benefit.
Life doesn't even require anything making SENSE ffs, never mind conforming to our own little personal narratives.

PS as for 'those who go through it with a smile on their face' ; what if you've tried that over and over until circumstances (those inconvenient external factors which determine our opportunities that we can't just wish away) wiped that smile right off your damn face -?
What about where you reach a point where you can't even cry anymore because that's too much emotional energy wasted for nothing?!

.... 'oh just smile and eventually everything will just turn out ok' is the most delusional idiocy I've ever heard.
Cut down on the weed / the esoteric shit / both / or whatever else is limiting your critical faculties.
 
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Since he is from Brasil, would it be easier for him emigrate to Portugal and you go see each other that way? I have read about Brasilian people doing this.
With what fucking money??!
How would we buy a place to live?

.... Here I have a fully - mortgaged home.
We both speak fluent English.

In Germany I have preferential rights because I'm a German national but again, we no longer own any property there and haven't got the means to buy. Plus he speaks zero German while I speak only passable Brazilian Portuguese, which again differs quite a bit from European Portuguese. And Brazil is not safe for me long - term round his parts.

All I want is to live together with him in the home that's already waiting.
 
With what fucking money??!
How would we buy a place to live?

.... Here I have a fully - mortgaged home.
We both speak fluent English.

In Germany I have preferential rights because I'm a German national but again, we no longer own any property there and haven't got the means to buy. Plus he speaks zero German while I speak only passable Brazilian Portuguese, which again differs quite a bit from European Portuguese. And Brazil is not safe for me long - term round his parts.

All I want is to live together with him in the home that's already waiting.
If he and you are married will that speed up the emigration process to the UK?
 
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If he and you are married will that speed up the emigration process?
We will need to physically get together to even get married and right now this looks next to impossible.
Given that both the Brazilian and the UK's handling of the pandemic has been atrociously lazy and incompetent.

Basically both countries are red - listed meaning you need special exceptional permission to travel. This applies to re-joining with your MARRIED PARTNER but unfortunately our relationship has yet to be recognized in any 'official' capacity.
Bit of a Catch - 22.
 
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