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Why We Took Cocaine Out of Soda

I'm guessing the average person that drank this stuff wouldnt have had much of a tolerance and got a nice little buzz and thats about it.

I never used to drink any caffeine because it really affected me, even if i had a cup of tea or something during the day, id have trouble sleeping at night. You give a coca drink to someone with zero coke (ha...) tolerance, and they'd probably want to talk a little more than usual.
 
This was a neat little history lesson. It kind of pisses me off that it is brazenly illegal to produce my own Red Coca Wine, yet if my toe hurts I can get 180 30mg roxicodone pills. Prohibition is silly.
 
I am also curious as to how much cocaine was in coca-cola. Does anyone know?
 
John Pemberton, one of the creators of the original forumula, called for five ounces of coca leaf per gallon of syrup, a significant dose; in 1891, Asa Candler, who bought the company, claimed his formula (altered extensively from Pemberton's original) contained only a tenth of this amount. Coca-Cola once contained an estimated nine milligrams of cocaine per glass. In 1903 it was removed.

After 1904, instead of using fresh leaves, Coca-Cola started using "spent" leaves — the leftovers of the cocaine-extraction process with trace levels of cocaine. Coca-Cola now uses a cocaine-free coca leaf extract prepared at a Stepan Company plant in Maywood, New Jersey.
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But Snopes says that it is not possible to tell how much cocaine was in Coke.
 
There was a malta sold in Miami in the 90s that was found to have cocaine in it. Unfortunately I found out about it after it was taken off of supermarket shelves.
 
Cocaethylene isn't a super drug its toxic, and is bad for your heart/liver AFIAK

"Cocaine use is linked to cardiovascular problems especially increased heart rate and blood pressure. These risks have been demonstrated to be further increased by cocaethylene. A study in 1997 (Farre et al) found that whilst cocaine increased heart rates by 12 beats per minute (BPM), cocaethylene increased heart rates by 33 BPM. Increased heart risks are thought to be concomitant with up to 30% increased blood cocaine levels when cocaethylene is formed"
 
fwiw, when cocaine was removed from coca cola, the amount was so small it was irrelevant. and to say that prohibition's chief cause was racism is to miss the point. societies have almost always fought (most)intoxicants, and while race was part of the hysteria for getting pot banned (or religion, for banning heretic psychoactives like peyote), those are just the scapegoats of the moment.
 
yea i think it only contained a few mgs of actual cocaine. coca cola still uses a ton of alkaloids for the flavor if im not mistaken. cool story.
 
if by 'coca alkaloids', then yes you'd be mistaken. if by 'alkaloid' you mean that kola nut is still probably part of their 'flavor syrup blend', then yeah probably.
 
Thats right, thats the cola part. I thought they still used something from coca leaf but i guess it was something else
 
coca extract

'medicine cabinet' said:
Thats right, thats the cola part. I thought they still used something from coca leaf but i guess it was something else
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Yea, Coca-Cola still uses a coca extract. The goal was to eradicate coca from th face of the earth by the UN, so new coke came up. Wasn't successful so coke went back to its original coca extract containing recipy. So the idea was scrapped> coca-cola had a lab in Kaui but cant remember the story behind it but it ould seem that Coca-Cola has so muc money that they had the capability of not just lobbying one country but the entire UN. So their trujillo coca fields remain.

Another piece of trivia- not sure if its true. But I read the drink "Cuba libre" was developed not by Cuban post Castro expats but after the Spanish American war containing rum and cocainized coca-cola syrup.=D
 
haha very interesting story, cool to get the specifics on the coca-cola/cocaine thing.
 
Prohibitions were founded on racism because the people behind it knew for a fact that the majority of white people would be enraged and respond to it. The real reason marijuana was made illegal was because the people who owned the big lumber companies knew hemp would eventually replace the wood we use for all types of materials, mostly paper. They couldn't let this happen and lose their billion dollar empires, so they said "Hey, lets just tell America that marijuana causes black men to rape white women, and then they'll outlaw it and we wont have anything to worry about anymore.", and that's exactly what they did. They were also behind the propaganda of the movie Reefer Madness that was made in the 30's.
 
CJWillis1986 said:
Prohibitions were founded on racism because the people behind it knew for a fact that the majority of white people would be enraged and respond to it. The real reason marijuana was made illegal was because the people who owned the big lumber companies knew hemp would eventually replace the wood we use for all types of materials, mostly paper. They couldn't let this happen and lose their billion dollar empires, so they said "Hey, lets just tell America that marijuana causes black men to rape white women, and then they'll outlaw it and we wont have anything to worry about anymore.", and that's exactly what they did. They were also behind the propaganda of the movie Reefer Madness that was made in the 30's.
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Also I think the owners of these huge timber investments in canada were the very same people who owned the major newspapers of the day and so had the ability to assume editorial control of the news media to further demonize cannabis and push the propaganda and spread the lies and fear.
 
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