Why is Niacinamide found so often with LSD?

[Asante]

DrumTripper, that was not NiacinAmide but Niacin (the amide doesnt flush, the straight niacin does) and the standard hippie comedown dose of that, causing intense flushing, is 500mg.

Niacin causes a very unpleasant flush but is actually better than Niacinamide, it was even used with reasonable success in schizophrenia prior to the advent of antipsychotics. It wasnt as good for psychosis as haldol, but it was a lot better than nothing. With Niacin and Niacinamide you should keep 500mg as a maximum dose, to not elevate your liver enzymes.

Niacinamide is about 1/100 the gram potency of diazepam, but you cant get over 500mg/day. You can buy it in impressive 500mg tabsfrom specialist supplement stores. One of those is your no-flush trip stabilizer in a simple tab.

 

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

Yeah ^ maybe it helps the acid crystals form evenly on the blotter.

They use liquid which the LSD crystal is dissolved in, and then the sheet of blotter paper or gelatin windowpane is immersed in the liquid, or they drop it on the blotter, windowpane, etc.

 

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

eye dilation doesn't always happen on LSD. Infact if im in sun lit areas on a day trip my eyes will be pin point pupils but in the dark they do dilate to complete black where if anybody looked at me they would know im on drugs. Yet on shrooms my eyes never dilate and look totally fine / sober

Interesting. I wonder why that is?

 

[DrumTripper]

@Asante you're right, sorry. Niacin. It was definitely that because of the flushing.
Very interesting about use in schizophrenia cases.
Sounds like there's something more than placebo at play here.
I'm going to keep some around for heavier trips.
Thanks!

 

[tired of crap]

Buddy did his thesis on niacin and excitatoxicity. He would preload, post load and eat it throughout all of his psychoactive adventures.

A quick google yields
“Beside the pro-differentiating action, nicotinamide also promotes neuronal survival, especially during oxidative stress conditions”

But the doses on blotter are far from sufficient

 

[SunriseChampion]

Shiiiit, apparently I've been living wrong. Flushing.

Man, and I'm just here eating a bunch of fish hoping for the best.

Very informative thread, cheers.

 

[tired of crap]

Shiiiit, apparently I've been living wrong. Flushing.

You mean
If it’s yellow flush it down
if it’s brown keep it around ?

 

[DrumTripper]

Niacin is useful in bringing a person out of the experience although this should only be done in case of some emergency which necessitates the subject’s leaving the experience. A dose of 400-600 mgms. intravenously should be adequate to terminate the experience. Unpleasant phases of the expe- rience should not lead to its termination as they most frequently indicate that the person is working through some troublesome problem-often a necessary and beneficial process leading to emotional growth.

From the MAPS Handbook for the Therapeutic Use of LSD

 

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

Buddy did his thesis on niacin and excitatoxicity. He would preload, post load and eat it throughout all of his psychoactive adventures.

A quick google yields
“Beside the pro-differentiating action, nicotinamide also promotes neuronal survival, especially during oxidative stress conditions”

But the doses on blotter are far from sufficient

Which drugs did your friend take the niacin or Niacinamide on or after? I took Niacinamide on LSD, just to see if it would end a trip and this did not happen at all. I forget the amount, it was probably at least 500mg, but it was bought in a pharmacy and I just took one pill orally.