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I am anticipating a decent 6 weeks to 2 month break from MDMA following using 3 weeks in a row...I'm starting to feel anxiety on comedowns again which is a big warning sign to stop using for a decent period of time. I have a few weekends planned with no party scenarios, such as doing some weekend courses, working on my creative writing and thesis, and maybe even going to some theme parks, but for the weekends I do go out I know the temptation to do MD will be there, which is why it's essential to have some good backup drugs for the interim.

So anyway, I am curious to see what other people use to party on...and what kind of party scenarios you think suit certain drugs.

For house parties I would say cigarettes and alcohol will last me a three to four hours of partying so long as I'm just sitting down and chatting. Speed and alcohol is also good fun at a house party for chatting to mates until the sun rises...I've been dabbling with barbiturates recently as well and could see barbs working well in a mellow house party gathering (not mixed with anything). Cocaine is good because you can do lines as frequently as you want in the comfort of your own home or a close friend's. Small doses of Oxy could work.

For live music, a small dose of 2cb will replicate an MDMA high nicely with no cross tolerance. BK-MDMA, while cross-tolerant, can also work as a substitute toward the end of the break period when it becomes more practical to use serotonin releasers again. Speed and alcohol once again is a winning combination, but with a very shitty comedown...

For clubbing, MDMA is really the only drug I like. I guess cocaine, but it's too annoying to redose every half hour in a club. My friend has a birthday party this week at a club and I'm dreading it...not sure what I'm going to do as MDMA is out of the question, but I can't stand clubbing otherwise (EDIT: not asking for suggestions, these are the only drugs I have access to anyway). I guess a speedball could work - maybe oxy/speed, as heroin/coke is a little too unpredictable for clubbing. Mephedrone is a decent drug with a minor cross-tolerance, but I haven't seen any RCs around my area for ages.

So what have I missed? What do you guys do during breaks when you still want to socialise and party?
 
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usually it's just alcohol... plenty of fun to be had!

in a club you could do ketamine? you might get kinda slow and awkward though
 
Yeah I've never had K before. I've heard of people doing it with MDMA at clubs, but not by itself. I had MXE once and it's not exactly the kind of drug I'd want to party on. Maybe at an intimate house party or gig though...kind of like the barbs, where you feel euphoric and stuff, but your movements are all over the place and you're pretty apathetic toward everything, which doesn't make for great socialising...

As for alcohol....ah, alcohol. I have a love/hate relationship with it. Can't stand the hangover and I have a weak digestive system so it really puts me out for a few days after. Also, it's pretty boring in comparison to MDMA or meth or coke, or basically, any other recreational drug ever. After about two hours of drinking I just get bored and tired.

That's when the drugs usually come in...
 
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Alcohol, just being careful not to drink so much that I don't want to dance anymore or just get food and go home.
 
Speed sounds like an OK alternative to me. I'd avoid alcohol because the reduced inhibitions just make you want to take MDMA anyway. At least in my experiences. Not to mention the hangover is shocking at best.

2cb, speed (or any amphetamines really - adderall, vyvanse, ritalin can be recreational), ketamine, psychedelics if you're into it. Basically anything that's not a serotonin-releaser.
 
This forum likes speed more than I would think...

I can't stand speed.

Alcohol for me. I don't like partying on psychedelics, even MDMA I do in close environments. Alcohol was always my go to for anything social.

Mephedrone, methylone, etc., are pretty much off-limits when you're taking a break from MDMA.
 
JWills20 said:
That does surprise me. The effects aren't all that far from MDMA.
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Not for me. I am guessing that we are having a clash of slang here though.

Around my area, "speed" is methamphetamine, not amphetamine. From what I understand, meth is quite rare over there so you are likely just referring to amphetamine salts which don't really do much for me but I can't stand meth and I've only ever had it orally, couldn't imagine smoking it. Yuck.

In Denver, amphetamine is very rare but meth is everywhere.
 
Yea the whole western US is full of meth. Street amphetamine is also very rare here in California but RX amphetamine is too easy to get.

Just curious what don't you like about methamp? If you enjoy MDMA I don't see why u wouldnt like crystal, except for the obvious stigma that comes along.
 
Hmm, surprising amount of responses to a "What drugs should I take?" thread. Thought this was against the rules? I suppose it teeters on the edge of harm-reduction... :p

Anyway, everyone is different so it really depends on what particular effects of MDMA are you trying to replicate. Personally, I love to be stimulated, positively social, euphoric, and to have my environment look all bright, saturated and shiny, as well as music enhancement. So, for me, kratom, kanna, caffeine, occasional smoked cannabis, a very low dose of psilocybin mushrooms and a dabble of whiskey here and there. In the right doses and timings, this rivals my MDMA-with-friends nights.

....however....

Nothing, absolutely nothing will ever come close to a night on MDMA with a true lover no matter where you are. At home, naked, in bed is best. :) No other drug can replicate THAT feeling. I really do believe that MDMA either releases something additional OR metabolizes differently when in the presence of someone you are truly, DEEPLY in love with....not just a girlfriend, not just your BFF, I mean someone you can't spend an hour away from without missing them. But that's a little OT....


I would never willingly ingest methamphetamine either, but like you, I'm sure I have had some in my pills/molly in the past. I'm fairly certain I know the feeling, and based on what you're describing, it sounds like what you want and I know for a fact I'd love it too.....but......that's a tree I'd rather not bark up. I'm all about my natural, organic compounds and have found great success with them. On your own time (with a trusty sitter, obviously), try experimenting with some safe, natural things and see what works for you.

Have you ever had MDA, molly's trippy sister? When my tolerance was lower, a combo of a low dose mushrooms with some kratom was nearly a natural, harmless and nearly identical experience in regards of how I felt and how much fun I was having with friends, with some visuals around me and spacial sounding music. As a matter of fact, I believe Shulgin referred to MDA as "like electric mushrooms" or something like that, and I whole-heartedly agree.
 
Mushrooms tends to do it for me. But some people might find the mental intoxication from them a bit too much for a party. Speed is also a lot of fun, but really addictive. The best might be to just stick to drinking, the euphoria is great if you don't overdo it.
 
a pot of peyote tea with a nitrous oxide and Viagra chaser
 
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Weed actually. It stimulates me, so for me it's great to party on. Not much of an alcohol person, though I do drink
 
Seattle_Stranger said:
Hmm, surprising amount of responses to a "What drugs should I take?" thread. Thought this was against the rules? I suppose it teeters on the edge of harm-reduction... :p

Anyway, everyone is different so it really depends on what particular effects of MDMA are you trying to replicate. Personally, I love to be stimulated, positively social, euphoric, and to have my environment look all bright, saturated and shiny, as well as music enhancement. So, for me, kratom, kanna, caffeine, occasional smoked cannabis, a very low dose of psilocybin mushrooms and a dabble of whiskey here and there. In the right doses and timings, this rivals my MDMA-with-friends nights.

....however....

Nothing, absolutely nothing will ever come close to a night on MDMA with a true lover no matter where you are. At home, naked, in bed is best. :) No other drug can replicate THAT feeling. I really do believe that MDMA either releases something additional OR metabolizes differently when in the presence of someone you are truly, DEEPLY in love with....not just a girlfriend, not just your BFF, I mean someone you can't spend an hour away from without missing them. But that's a little OT....


I would never willingly ingest methamphetamine either, but like you, I'm sure I have had some in my pills/molly in the past. I'm fairly certain I know the feeling, and based on what you're describing, it sounds like what you want and I know for a fact I'd love it too.....but......that's a tree I'd rather not bark up. I'm all about my natural, organic compounds and have found great success with them. On your own time (with a trusty sitter, obviously), try experimenting with some safe, natural things and see what works for you.

Have you ever had MDA, molly's trippy sister? When my tolerance was lower, a combo of a low dose mushrooms with some kratom was nearly a natural, harmless and nearly identical experience in regards of how I felt and how much fun I was having with friends, with some visuals around me and spacial sounding music. As a matter of fact, I believe Shulgin referred to MDA as "like electric mushrooms" or something like that, and I whole-heartedly agree.
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I didn't mean for this to be a 'what should I take thread', as I am not asking for suggestions for me personally. I have access to a limited amount of drugs anyway and so there would be not point in me asking for suggestions as my dealers only stock what they have. I am just actually curious to see what regular MD users do in-between uses. It sounds bad, but it's hard for me to imagine a time where I partied before MDMA came into a picture...I guess that's because that time never really existed for me.

Nothing comes close to the MDMA high I agree, but honestly, I am not always chasing that perfect euphoria anymore when I use, I just want a nice buzz. But it does feel like something's missing when you replace MDMA with speed...I guess the serotonin is missing!

Meth is the closet drug but as serotonin releaser it wouldn't really be wise to use it during a break. I find the effects pretty similar to MDMA, just more chargey and self-centred rather than empathetic. Great for socialising. Unfortunately in my area most 'speed' turns out to be meth, which makes it difficult to find a good replacement drug for breaks. Regular amphetamine actually has a higher street value here, it's crazy.

I've had MDA, it's probably one of my favourite drugs - I prefer it over regular old Molly. More speedy and talkative, and I think there is a bit more leeway in regards to cross tolerance. How about MDEA? I have some of that, but wasn't sure how it would work in regards to cross tolerance. Just figured it was another no-no. And to be honest, MDEA is nowhere near as fun as MDMA or MDA...much more subdued high.
 
Ethanol and/or marijuana. Festival season is ending and football season is starting which means the weekends are going to be much boozier. I, also, am welcoming a much needed break from rolling. This summer was wild.

Saving the rest of my stash for haloween and new years.
 
2C-B is my favourite between rolls followed by low dose LSD.
 
I wouldn't only be worried about serotonin depletion, I'd worry about receptor down-regulation as well. Psychedelics of any kind can potentially cause a cross-tolerance with your MDMA because they are dancing on some of the same receptors, even if they aren't actually releasing neurotransmitters. This probably goes double for phenethylamines because MDMA is a phen. Again, mushrooms are probably the least of the evils in this case.

I'd start experimenting with a whole new realm, you never know, you might find something you like even better. Seriously TRY KRATOM. Gave some to a friend who has only had MDMA, coke, weed and booze in his life, and he texted me later that day "Dude!! This stuff is kinda like molly!!!" telling me how he yapped his friend's ear off, ravaged his girlfriend and jammed out to music all Tuesday night having a blast, all the while not depleting serotonin or causing hangovers/comedowns. Obviously if you do this every day, you'll get a addicted, but it doesn't seem like you're looking for a daily fix.

Kanna, which does actually work on the serotonin system, gives kratom an even more molly-like edge. Psilocybin 10x as so. Add a good caffeine/xanthine source for wakefulness (Not NoDoz!!) as well as the right kind of vitamins/supplements, maybe even a nootropic, some trusty weed and a trace amount of hard alcohol (not beer, maybe wine) and trust me, my friend, you'll be rollin'. :)
 
With proper breaks in between psychedelic use receptor down regulation isn't a real issue. 2 weeks is enough time for many psychedelics and doing it anymore than that is in the realm of abuse.
 
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