By karma Im talking the day to day not being eaten away by guilt not any metaphyiscial definition.
Unfortunately my favourite type of drugs are dopamine stims but they were made in the labs whehter on the backs of animal torute or not I dunno. Original amp was made in the late 1800s so dunno what the deal was back then. I know vivesection was all the rage so I imagine not great.
To me it seems criminal that I would use something just to 'get off'/enjoy some cheap thrills when it was garnered on the torure of animals.
I wonder what else that I use from day to day though has be brought about through suffering of animals? Maybe its inescapable?
Research chemicals seem to be a grey area in all respects, but including whether animal testing was done on them. I think it could go either way in that shulgin made alot of the drugs and he said that 'animals tests are 'doo doo'' so he would do them on himself.
Im sure the satanic chinese labs in their sociopathic drive for money couldnt care less and will pump mice full of the drugs to see what happens as the thread bear safety measure they use before submitting a new chemical to the masses.
I often wonder if new chemicals are tested at all before the 'first samples' are given out. I imagine to cover their asses the vendors would want to dose up animals to check.
Shame for me that I hate most 'natural' drugs, weed, alcohol, mushrooms. I just like straight stims if anthing or straight downers of which the daddy opiates its best I not mess with. Kratom is the only one that is worthy of my attention that im aware of. opiates too would get a pass in my book but I think Ill pass on those
I would say that my criteria would be that if it was discovered without the use of animals then it is morally ok. If they do testing on animals afterwards then there I feel that it can be thought of as beside the point- not that it should happen but it wasnt discovered that way just like many things are tested on animals after their discoverey.
Thats why i think the anti depressant industry is criminal. For cancer drugs and stuff ye ok, or stuff like that where its absolutely neccessary (though ideally maybe we could just realise our time is up rather than prolonigng the inevitable cuasing more suffering in the world and just take opiates and prepare for death/euthanasia) but not a whole industry of torture to animals invented to cure the sloth of the populaiton that they themsevles created through their indolence.
Unfortunately my favourite type of drugs are dopamine stims but they were made in the labs whehter on the backs of animal torute or not I dunno. Original amp was made in the late 1800s so dunno what the deal was back then. I know vivesection was all the rage so I imagine not great.
To me it seems criminal that I would use something just to 'get off'/enjoy some cheap thrills when it was garnered on the torure of animals.
I wonder what else that I use from day to day though has be brought about through suffering of animals? Maybe its inescapable?
Research chemicals seem to be a grey area in all respects, but including whether animal testing was done on them. I think it could go either way in that shulgin made alot of the drugs and he said that 'animals tests are 'doo doo'' so he would do them on himself.
Im sure the satanic chinese labs in their sociopathic drive for money couldnt care less and will pump mice full of the drugs to see what happens as the thread bear safety measure they use before submitting a new chemical to the masses.
I often wonder if new chemicals are tested at all before the 'first samples' are given out. I imagine to cover their asses the vendors would want to dose up animals to check.
Shame for me that I hate most 'natural' drugs, weed, alcohol, mushrooms. I just like straight stims if anthing or straight downers of which the daddy opiates its best I not mess with. Kratom is the only one that is worthy of my attention that im aware of. opiates too would get a pass in my book but I think Ill pass on those
I would say that my criteria would be that if it was discovered without the use of animals then it is morally ok. If they do testing on animals afterwards then there I feel that it can be thought of as beside the point- not that it should happen but it wasnt discovered that way just like many things are tested on animals after their discoverey.
Thats why i think the anti depressant industry is criminal. For cancer drugs and stuff ye ok, or stuff like that where its absolutely neccessary (though ideally maybe we could just realise our time is up rather than prolonigng the inevitable cuasing more suffering in the world and just take opiates and prepare for death/euthanasia) but not a whole industry of torture to animals invented to cure the sloth of the populaiton that they themsevles created through their indolence.
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