okay...well ive had ice a number of times & sure its great!i get a HUGE rush off this.i love it!its a very social drug,its good 2 have with friends,coz u chat your ass off 2 every1.it also gives u heaps of energy,so its good 2 dance on it...the comedown is hard pretty hard though,coz your awake 4 ages,so u end up feelin all shitty coz u cant sleep.so if your someone who alwayz gets depressed on a comedown,then i wouldnt recommend havin this.its great with pilz,it helps your pill last alot longer.i started takin this when speed stopped working on me,since this stuff is sooo much stronger.its a very addictive drug though,lucky 4 me im not addicted.i only have it once every now and then,only when im partying (which isnt that much now).its also really exspensive,me and my mates pay $150 a half way 4 this,but u can make it last amongst yourselves 4 ages.u just smoke it over and over again.