vomiting is an obvious overdose issue and 12-30 mg hydromorphone I assumed IV by your friend and a different ROA for you? That is definitely an above average tollerance and the fent will just shoot it exponuntially higher making other opiates unable to even reduce w/d. Worst of all rather than a 2-6 hour effect possibly even only one if the dose is low for hydromorphone is long compared to fents 1/2 hour half-life leading to an hour of relief at best before one is not just craving, but sick.
Thanks for your input. I'd like to point out though that vomiting is not an obvious overdose sign. Having a quick, spontaneous ,puke just happens when you do good dope. That's well documented and a lot of people will attest to it. Being nauseous and floored in fetal position puking is a sign of overdosing, but randomly upchucking after taking a good hit isn't unheard of.
I've never seen anyone be berated like this on Bluelight before just for maintaining their habit. What's the big deal? I realize there's a lot of dope at stake here but I'm using with a host of other responsible adults who have all been a part of the opiate game for a good portion of our life. We're all obviously into harm reduction - hence posting here - and are by no means stupid. I feel like the general tone of responses in this thread are suspecting that I'm just going to go ahead and try to wash the fentanyl anways. Of course not - I'm asking to lear
I'm sick of irresponsible junkies who OD making everyone scared of fent. I'd LOVE some of that shit. What you DO need to do is either make it exceedingly clear it's much stronger, or dilute it to normal dope levels (preferably the former). Be safe with it, respect the strength. You don't have to substitute fear for responsibility.
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Thanks. Agreed. I mentioned earlier (though everyone flaming me seems to have ignored it) that the dope is perfectly diluted. My more tolerant friends can shoot a point comfortably (though, as I"ll mention in a moment, they started with much less) my less tolerant friends can shoot a quarter point comfortably, and I can maintain my habit of smoking.
Nobody's going to overdose on my watch. I warn everyone that the stuff's potent and if a fellow pillhead or user wants to try the stuff, it I'll sit them down and make them smoke a toke or two right in front of me to assess their tolerance. That happened last night - a friend wanted to try a certain amount. I sat him down and made him smoke a single toke and he loved it and decided he'd not even need a quarter as much as he'd planned to do.
So I have my dope, and I have a select circle of good friends who enjoy using it and have experience with opiates of all sorts. Including pure fentanyl. We understand that fentanyl is more potent than what we're used to - just like we usually are when we deal with fentanyl instead of our regular dope - which is why we make sure to regulate and observe our usage and not let anyone shoot up if they're by themselves.
This is my stance right now. I asked if the extraction was possible. It's not, so I'm not going to attempt it. I'm leaving the dope as is and am going to proceed to use it at regular doses with the same people I've been using with the last three weeks.
Another quip that'd been thrown at me is that "my habit has increased exponentially over the last two weeks." Well, not to be blunt, but no shit. That's what happens when you score a good amount of product. The only reason my habit wasn't at this level a few weeks before was because I didn't have the cash to support it. I just need some clarification -
why am I being berated so much? I have been this addicted to opiates numerous times in the past, have dealt with the sickness and moved on and, when the time comes, returned to meet the dragon. It's nothing I'm proud of, but comments of "stop before you hit rock bottom" and "throw it out before it's too late" seem a little bit unjust.
I've done this all before. Everyone using this dope, has been down this road before. Again, nothing I'm proud of, but I don't need to be mothered, I made a few threads asking for a) tips about distracting myself from compulsive redosing (which I have since figured out myelfs) and b) to see if an extraction was possible (which I now see is not.)
So, now I'm maintaining a habit at a level I'm comfortable with, with the product that was sent to me.
What's the huge deal?