Benzos Was Recently Scripted BuSpar Instead Of Re-Scripting Klonopin

[OpiatEuphoriaReturns]

So maybe some of you know me from this thread: https://www.bluelight.org/xf/thread...d-instead-of-klonopin-for-anxiety-add.893144/

I am trying to work my way back to my old Klonopin 1mg a day script which I took for 4-5 years and then moved and never got my script back because I did not see a new psychiatrist until about 2 months ago.
They tried some SSRI's but none of them worked so now she has me on BuSpar.
What are your experiences with BuSpar? It seems to give me this kind of rush at 20mg at once, and I can sit down and get quite a bit done. But after 2 hours or so it wears off and then it feels like nothing.

I wish they would just script me Klonopin 1mg/day again, I tried all the self discipline like weight loss and exercise and other medications and techniques and I am fine taking 1mg Klonopin for the rest of my life. I accomplish more on it and feel better on it. And I never increase my dosage to get high or for more anxiety relief. I just stay at that 1mg/day dose in the morning.

How is your experience with BuSpar and now that she has done all the SSRI's and BuSpar what is left to script for Social Anxiety Disorder?

Also she is working on my ADD next week as well and I hate Adderall, Klonopin helps me focus because it takes away me anxiety so I can focus. I have told her all of this but still she hasn't just re-prescribed Klonopin for me. But Concerta has helped me before a little.

 

[OpiatEuphoriaReturns]

BuSpar have a helf life of 2.5h so you need redose every 4 hours I keep feeling the effect
If this doctor won't prescript you benzo you might need to change it, many doctors will accept represcripting benzo if they know you was on it before

Thanks for the reply. I actually have been seeing my doctor and getting Suboxone for the past 4 years or so from her. She said she cannot re-script it that I need to see a psychiatrist but I believe she is going to write a recommendation to take Klonopin letter to my psych in a few weeks so I hope that helps. Otherwise what other meds would they prescribe now that SSRI's and BuSpar are not optional?

 

[Kaden_Nite]

If clonazepam works for you and doesn't cause issues, then insist on clonazepam or find another doctor.

People shouldn't have to settle for less effective and potentially problematic options just because that's what a doctor feels comfortable prescribing.

It's their choice what they want to prescribe of course, but trialling a bunch of SSRIs and antipsychotics sounds unnecessary when you already know what works.

 

[GetMeOutOfThisCRAP]

Yeah honestly.

I assume you live in the US or close to it? Sry I can't remember. You can't substitute a substance at the end of the day. Might as well just go all the way and find a doctor who will just suck it up and give it to you. Because realistically they are doctors and it's an institution/business. They need patients.. and they don't want someone to just harm themselves by getting the substance illegally or legally

It isn't dilauded. Someone's bound to just realize that 1 milligram of klonopin for someone with experience and knowledge of benzos would not ruin anyone's life. It would take ALOT more klonopin (lmao). What is with doctor's these days jesus? The same kind that gave everyone OC80s like breathmints. Now it's so far gone in the opposite direction. This is why people love heroin.. you don't need a script for it. Doctor's love to think they control our behavior but realistically they can at best relieve our worst actions. For someone to not realize that after the brutality and intelligence required to get past med school--you kind of have to notice that as a doctor you have a moral choice in helping us not ruin our lives. So with us or against us. Your patient. Just pick a side already

 

[OpiatEuphoriaReturns]

If clonazepam works for you and doesn't cause issues, then insist on clonazepam or find another doctor.

People shouldn't have to settle for less effective and potentially problematic options just because that's what a doctor feels comfortable prescribing.

It's their choice what they want to prescribe of course, but trialling a bunch of SSRIs and antipsychotics sounds unnecessary when you already know what works.

Completely agree. I did not insist on Klonopin today but I was having a mid panic attack after having a fight with my wife because that BuSpar is making me angry everyday, short level of patience before I get angry on that stuff.
She then tried to prescribe me Remerol but she said it can increase appetite so I said no thanks, I am having trouble even getting outside to have walks because of my anxiety, don't wanna sit in the house and take a pill that makes me want to eat more.

So then I said fine, if you don't want to treat chronic social anxiety then let's skip it and I will focus on my ADD medication next because I am tired of taking all these pills that don't work and make me feel worse. So she tries to prescribe me FUCKING ADDERALL 30MG/DAY!!!!
I told her no, I used to be prescribed Adderall 30mg a day and I did not like it, I don't like stimulants. But Concentra 18mg/day did help me a little bit so I would go with that if you really want to focus on my ADD.

So she scripts me Concetra, what I think is worse for you or equally as bad as benzos, and TRAZADONE 50mg.

Like lady, why are you doing everything in your power to not script me 1 fucking mg of klonopin a day?

I have been on Klonopin 1mg a day and never increased the dose for 4 YEARS. I think that shows it not only works, but all you have to do is refill it, I will most likely never ask for me because I know more won't really help, 1mg a day is enough to keep my anxiety at bay or enough to where I can focus and go on with life.

Next month I will tell her look, Klonopin works and I do not want to try anymore medication. So script it or I am done and finding another psych. Until then, I am now going to spend $40 I barely even have on enough Klonopin to last me a month, which is 30 1mg pills off my shady local dealer I want nothing to do with.

 

[OpiatEuphoriaReturns]

if i understand your question exactly, pregabaline or gbapantine is better the benzos, the have less risk of dependence, otherwise you might try cbd or something alse
you can ask him for Tricyclic antidepressants like Clomipramine. it have some adrenergic effect to help

I already have Gabapentin on script need to up the dosage 300mg 2x a day doesn't work anymore. I need lyrica, Klonopin and Suboxone or just the Klonopin and Suboxone. Or just the Lyrica'Suboxone.

 

[kaosisallwesee]

Yeah honestly.

I assume you live in the US or close to it? Sry I can't remember. You can't substitute a substance at the end of the day. Might as well just go all the way and find a doctor who will just suck it up and give it to you. Because realistically they are doctors and it's an institution/business. They need patients.. and they don't want someone to just harm themselves by getting the substance illegally or legally

I mean no argument or insult with this, but..... That right there is why America ended up with millions of patients addicted to pain meds. The doctors surgeries are a business and need the patients to keep coming back. Socialised health care removes that situation by putting the medical professionals in control. Over here it doesn't matter if a patient agrees with their doctor or even likes them, they get paid the same either way, removing that temptation to prescribe drugs that might not be 100% necessary or needed at all in order to get repeat customers, sorry I mean "patients".
At the same time I do see the OPs point. If you've been on them for years and they're working, why change it now? Are you planning on being on benzos for life? Maybe your new doctor is trying to save you from that or realises that at some point 1mg per day won't be effective anymore and isn't prepared to go higher or prescribe for life lol. I find it funny that in a private system the mentality of patients is so different to that of patients in a socialized system, with the obvious solution being to change doctors until you find one that's willing to prescribe addictive and possibly unnecessary drugs. Mind me asking what you old doc tried before landing on clonazepam? I just find it hard to believe that benzos are the only solution for so many Americans. We hardly prescribe any and get on just fine with mental health.

 

[GetMeOutOfThisCRAP]

I mean no argument or insult with this, but..... That right there is why America ended up with millions of patients addicted to pain meds. The doctors surgeries are a business and need the patients to keep coming back. Socialised health care removes that situation by putting the medical professionals in control. Over here it doesn't matter if a patient agrees with their doctor or even likes them, they get paid the same either way, removing that temptation to prescribe drugs that might not be 100% necessary or needed at all in order to get repeat customers, sorry I mean "patients".
At the same time I do see the OPs point. If you've been on them for years and they're working, why change it now? Are you planning on being on benzos for life? Maybe your new doctor is trying to save you from that or realises that at some point 1mg per day won't be effective anymore and isn't prepared to go higher or prescribe for life lol. I find it funny that in a private system the mentality of patients is so different to that of patients in a socialized system, with the obvious solution being to change doctors until you find one that's willing to prescribe addictive and possibly unnecessary drugs. Mind me asking what you old doc tried before landing on clonazepam? I just find it hard to believe that benzos are the only solution for so many Americans. We hardly prescribe any and get on just fine with mental health.

No I totally appreciate this post and welcome all opinions to anything I say.

I've seen OP on edge for months now over his klonopin script being abruptly removed from his reach. I just think that after thread upon thread--he knows what works for his anxiety condition and it doesn't make sense to just constantly shift through substance upon substance to find something that might work.. when klonopin has always been the remedy that OP finds best. I've warned him about benzo dependency and the risks but he still insists that klonopin is "the one" so going forward I don't see why doctors should deprive him of it any longer.

OP is not a novice when it comes to benzos. He's aware of the pros and the cons. I just think by that point if someone still insists on klonopin it says a lot after the test of time.

 

[OpiatEuphoriaReturns]

I do agree with you that medicine has been an issue in America as a Supply and Demand type, where you see a lot of patients looking for pharmaceuticals to get them high, but in my opinion why not? Grown adults should be able to teach themselves harm reduction and give it whirl, but that could be a catastrophe so I am not really suggesting it.

As for me, I am fine being on Klonopin for the rest of my life, I was on it for at least a minimum of 4 years and then off and on it the past 6 years or so without a script and is the ONLY reason I ever even bother/call/text/talk to dealers. Otherwise I would have zero to do with any of them. I want my dealer to be my doctor and I only want 2 things, Suboxone 8mg and Klonopin 1mg. Nothing else, maybe Gabapentin from time to time. Now I am going to try this Concerta because I haven't tried my ADD meds since I was a teenager and will give it a shot without the Klonopin to see if it is my ADD that has been my primary issue or if my anxiety is just that and gives me ADD like symptoms.
I will ask my psychiatrist next month directly for Klonopin and see what she says but I say things like: "Well I used to be on Concerta 18mg/day and Klonopin 1mg/day for about 4-5 years and it worked perfectly but I just never went back for my script after I moved" and she just scripts me Concerta and Trazadone (I hate Trazadone).

 

[Cream Gravy?]

you can ask him for Tricyclic antidepressants like Clomipramine

NOOOOO, steer far, far from TCAs. They are devil drugs, worse than SSRIs.