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vasoconstrictors suggestions (similar but different from stimulants)

asecin said:
i was using viagra and such, it semed to have acted more on the brain than the penis. i go back to vasoconstriction is very nasty perhaps, it affects the two ends simultaneous

it still doesnt explain the "speed dick" effect i can get from amphetamines though, they seem to actually help with mental clarity and same time shrinkage of penis
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You seem all kinds of confused. You also don't seem to understand how stimulants like amps work. Vasoconstriction is simply a side-effect of speed use; it's not responsible for any of the other 'positive' effects you may feel. If your fetish is simply to have speed dick but without actual speed, you're not going to feel any amplification of sensation as you would with speed. It's not going to feel good. You're simply going to be flaccid.
 
CFC, im just sick of the long acting dirty effects of amphetamines and coke. i know it turns me on whatever they do, but its not really related to the dozen of nasty side effects they have, just the sexual part. now, if i can only find some amphetamine that acts for about an hour with no long term nasty side effects, you are right, using anything else wont feel the same at all in the end ill stick to short term amphetamine formula but i figured there is no such as of yet.

i was thinking this tho, caffeine is vasoconstrictor and its the most widely used vasoconstrictor in the world without people even realizing. coffee has a lot of coffeine as well as carbolines which are dopamine boosting, if i add a vasoconstrictive agent to the mix, a nice cup of coffee might just immitate amphetamines without long term nasty side effects.
 
asecin said:
CFC, im just sick of the long acting dirty effects of amphetamines and coke
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I can appreciate that. So your question is actually: "Is it possible to take some combination of drugs that gives all the nice sexual effects of amps (plus erectile dysfunction) and no lingering sides but only for an hour?"

And we would have been able to answer honestly: "no." GHB might give you something close, but it's not without short and long-term sides.

Your questions about vasoconstriction are a red-herring based on a flawed symptomatic association. Vasoconstriction is not the difference between caffeine feeling like caffeine and caffeine feeling like speed. Self-induced erectile dysfunction with caffeine won't feel special in any way ;) The release of neurotransmitters like dopamine and NE from caffeine at non-lethal doses is minuscule compared to coke, amps or meth, and it's those neurotransmitters that give you the nice feelings.

The healthiest thing for you would be to train your brain to enjoy 'normal' sex again and restrict amp/coke use for special occasions.
 
train the brain to enjoy "normal" sex again haha its impossible now i have gone too far with experimentation of drug and sexual nature. the things i have tried....

anyway, thanks for your input. i tried ephedra and it kind of worked but again it lasted too long and it was mostly negative. some of those ergot derivatives are said to enhance sex drive and boost libido, and they also naturally have vasoconstrictive properties, i wonder if those would be a good try? ive only tried nicergoline but it actually enhances arterial blood flow to the brain which is strange for ergoid

but, the end i might just do a combo of good quality yohimbine and coffee i think it might imitate amps/coke to some extent
 
asecin said:
its impossible now i have gone too far with experimentation of drug and sexual nature. the things i have tried....
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That's a bit dramatic - thousands of people have been in your shoes before and recovered just fine. It doesn't take as long as you may think for the addictive behavioural cues to diminish: it usually involves a period of forced and repeated abstinence and care avoiding triggers. There's plenty of helpful guidance out there if you ever want to try, just Google.
 
Btw caffeine might just cause an erection it inhibits a enzyme phosphatidylesterase the same as viagra however is not selective for pde5 but caffeine consumption is associated with a relaxation of the smooth muscles of the penis .
 
LSD enhances sex drive like crazy and gives you speed dick. Dunno if this helps too much
 
it says caffeine is a vasoconstrictor, maybe they got it wrong.

and yes, lsd and mdma as well, used to give me some type of a speedy dick effect, but it was not the same as amphetamines. i still got off on amphetamines, lsd and mdma completely inhibited ejaculation
 
i return to this thread for another problem now asking for vasoconstriction help. i suffered a 12 hour priapism that was so painful and annoying (hard to pee right and muscle aches) that i wondered how emberassing would be to go visit ER just for that. do you guys really think thats not huge humiliation to visit ER for?? it must be the biggest i can think of, besides getting something stuck up your asshole trying to achieve sexual satisfaction of course. but point being, i think vasoconstrictors might be a good idea for me to keep considering and ill keep on hunting and appreciate any suggestions, thank you
 
yeah i used to take PDE5s relentlessly in the past with just the right amount of good quality alcohol, and i guess it hunts me down. somehow, a specific type of alcohol seems to react without any PDE5s involved in causing priapism now days, as if it has adjusted to manipulating my system somehow. anyway, its going to be a nightmare to go to the ER for this, im sorry, ill just need to have coke on the side to snort as ER prevention if that happens again, i think
well, actually, i still am searching for coke imitator out there....
 
How often are you geting viagra induced priapism? No offense dude but the way you talk bout it sounds like it happens all the time like to where its just "o i have a erection that wont go down again just another day " thats really weird have you seen sex sent me to the er on youtube you can probably find tons episodes when u feel embarassed just remember in one "a man was with a much younger pretty female and she said put your penis in this grill and ill blow you threw the little hole and once it got hard it couldnt come off and he tried as hard as he could to yank it out because he was too embarrassed so by the time he manned up it was bleeding purple and badly swollen andnthey had to drain the blood"
 
Just for future reference, phenylephrine often works for priapism. I'm not saying to treat yourself instead of going to the ER, but it is probably a good idea to keep it around because it might help you to avoid having to visit the ER.
 
I usually don't get in other people's business much but considering this is a harm reduction forum I have to say asecin, I think you may need to rethink where you get your happiness from in life or else you're headed nowhere fast judging by your posts as of lately
 
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