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After thinking about this, I'm thinking it might do better in Legal discussion or maybe even Second Opinion. I'm gonna go ahead and shoot it on over to Legal for now. The mods there can move it somewhere else if they think its better suited. :)
 
Thank you for your help and support. So I want to ask are they gonna report this to my parents or something?
 
I got a message from YouTube guru. He said its just a scam they will send some other emails. Now I am just a little relaxed. Again thank you for supporting and helping me :)
 
I found something (now deleted) on a legal forum. Someone else had posted similar emails, and the company had claimed they were going to file criminal charges. I'm not a lawyer, but it sounds incredibly unlikely that a case like this would be criminal - it would be a civil law case for non-payment of debt.

In any case, I'd suggest that any contract between you and them would be void for reasons of illegality - you're underage, they can't legally sell you porn, so it doesn't matter if you agreed to it, they can't enforce it (mods, any thoughts?).

As you say, it sounds like a scam, the best bet is to ignore anything you receive from them. Don't reply at all.

(btw, if your parents find out, so what? You're a 15 year old boy; if you're not looking at porn, you're probably the only one ;)).
 
Look to Infinite Jest's thoughts for the last word on this subject.
 
Follow up on the United Payment Limited.

Just wanted to know how it is going with the United Payment, other threads seem very intersting,
SO i was curious did they still email to harrass you guys and making you pay the invoice ??? :) or :!
 
Hey i got 3 mails from them:
First one about the invoice:

U n i t e d P a y m e n t L i m i t e d
Am Buchhorst 34, 14478 Potsdam

Companies Register: United Kingdom
Phone : 49 (0)331 - 8171600
Fax : 49 (0)331- 8171602
E-Mail: [email protected]
C u s t o m e r

Email:
IP address:
Provider:*.

Date: 02.07.2009
Invoice dated: 02.07.2009
Reference: NFGH-7DZP


INVOICE for 30 days membership www.vivis-homepage.com


Dear Customer,

Here is our invoice for the use of the 30 days softly erotic membership vivis-homepage.com.

You purchased:
_________________________________________________________________

Service: (1x) 30 days softly erotic membership vivis-homepage.com No. NFGH-7DZP
Net amount: 47,79 EUR
plus 19% VAT: 11,21 EUR
_________________________________________________________________
Total amount: 59,- EUR


Please transfer the outstanding amount of 59,- EUR (including 19% VAT)
within 7 days to the following account:


Account Holder: United Payment Limited
IBAN: DE26 1604 0000 0135 0545 01
BIC-/SWIFT-Code: COBADEFF160
Reference: NFGH-7DZP

Bank: Commerzbank Potsdam
Address: Karl-Liebknecht-Str.24
Postcode/City: 14482 Potsdam
Country: Germany


Pay with Credit Cart:
http://payment.vivis-homepage.com


You purchased this 30 days softly erotic membership for www.vivis-homepage.com by email on:
02.07.2009 Time 12:49:37.
Your IP address the time the agreement was concluded and the provider’s
name *.
were stored on our server at the time of purchase.


We ask you to pay the invoice, it is an unique ammount.
After payment entrance and expiration of the time the contractual relationship between us is finished.
A cancellation of membership is not necessary.



IMPORTANT NOTICE

Since our erotic services have recently been abused by fakers, we have no choice but to file
criminal charges with the public prosecutor's office of Potsdam (Germany) should we not receive your
payment or a response to this correspondence.

Taking such action is no inconvenience for us. In fact we have done so with several customers
who have abused our services and we are no longer willing to accept or ignore such behaviour.

The identity of the natural person who holds the IP address, which was stored as you used our
webcam services, can be easily determined in the course of an investigation by the prosecutor’s office.

Whoever enters into an agreement with the intent of not fulfilling their obligations under it
is at least criminally liable for the offence of attempted fraud. This circumstance is sufficient
for filing charges with the prosecutor's office.

We reserve the right to undertake appropriate steps in the event of refusal of payment.

Since it is documented that you made use of this service, we request that you make payment without
delay in order to spare yourself additional expenses and inconvenience. Please note that some banks
might need an extended time to process payments. We therefore recommend that you to make payment as
quickly as possible.


Thank you very much.


Sincerely,

United Payment Limited
Am Buchhorst 34
14478 Potsdam
Germany

United Payment Limited Accounting
Legal Venue: Birmingham District Court
Email: [email protected]
Legal Venue: Birmingham
Phone : 49 (0)331 - 8171600
Fax : 49 (0)331- 8171602


***************************************
Second about First collection notice:
U n i t e d P a y m e n t L i m i t e d
Am Buchhorst 34, 14478 Potsdam

Companies Register: United Kingdom
Phone : 49 (0)331 - 8171600
Fax : 49 (0)331- 8171602
E-Mail: [email protected]
C u s t o m e r

Email:
IP address:
Provider:*

Date: 10.07.2009
Invoice dated: 02.07.2009
Reference: NFGH-7DZP


FIRST COLLECTION NOTICE for 30 days softly erotic membership vivis-homepage.com


Dear Customer,

Apparently you have forgotten to pay our outstanding invoice. Regrettably, no payment
has been made to our account. If you have already made payment, then please disregard this collection notice.
Should we fail to receive payment, then we will have to assume that fraud has been
committed and will as necessary file charges against person(s) unknown having the IP address and whose provider is *.


On the basis of this information, the prosecutor’s office will be able to identify
the telephone connection from which our service was purchased.
You will be responsible for any costs incurred.

If we do not see that you have made payment within the next few days, then we will turn the
matter over to our legal department, an action that will incur additional costs for you.


You purchased:
_________________________________________________________________

Service: 30 days softly erotic membership vivis-homepage.com No. NFGH-7DZP
Net amount: 47,79 EUR
plus 19% VAT: 11,21 EUR
Delinquency fee net: 8,10 EUR
plus 19% VAT: 1,90 EUR
_________________________________________________________________
Total amount: 69,- EUR



Please transfer the outstanding amount of 69,- EUR incl. 19% VAT within 7
business days to the following account:


Account Holder: United Payment Limited
IBAN: DE26 1604 0000 0135 0545 01
BIC-/SWIFT-Code: COBADEFF160
Reference: NFGH-7DZP

Bank: Commerzbank Potsdam
Address: Karl-Liebknecht-Str.24
Postcode/City: 14482 Potsdam
Country: Germany


Pay with Credit Cart:
http://payment.vivis-homepage.com



You purchased this 30 days softly erotic membership for www.vivis-homepage.com by email on:
02.07.2009 Time 12:49:37.

Your IP address the time the agreement was concluded and the provider’s
name *.r
were stored on our server at the time of purchase.

You accepted the following:
* By clicking the button "Click now" you agree to buy 30 days membership www.vivis-homepage.com.
The one-time price for this 30 days access is 59,- EUR including statutory value-added tax.

The above information is clearly displayed on our website www.vivis-homepage.com.

To preclude someone from unknowingly making use of this service, we sent you a confirmation
email in which you clicked the confirmation link to activate our soft erotic content.

We ask you to pay the invoice, it is an unique ammount.
After payment entrance and expiration of the time the contractual relationship between us is finished.
A cancellation of membership is not necessary.


Thank you very much.

Sincerely,

United Payment Limited
Am Buchhorst 34
14478 Potsdam
Germany

United Payment Limited Accounting
Legal Venue: Birmingham District Court
Email: [email protected]
Legal Venue: Birmingham
Phone : 49 (0)331 - 8171600
Fax : 49 (0)331- 8171602

***************************************
Third about last colleciton notice:
U n i t e d P a y m e n t L i m i t e d
Am Buchhorst 34, 14478 Potsdam

Companies Register: United Kingdom
Phone : 49 (0)331 - 8171600
Fax : 49 (0)331- 8171602
E-Mail: [email protected]
C u s t o m e r

Email:
IP address:
Provider:*.

Date: 18.07.2009
Invoice dated: 02.07.2009
Reference: NFGH-7DZP


LAST COLLECTION NOTICE for 30 days softly erotic membership vivis-homepage.com


Dear Customer,

Apparently you have forgotten to pay our outstanding invoice. Regrettably, no payment
has been made to our account. If you have already made payment, then please disregard this collection notice.
Should we fail to receive payment, then we will have to assume that fraud has been
committed and will as necessary file charges against person(s) unknown having the IP address and whose provider is *.


On the basis of this information, the prosecutor’s office will be able to identify
the telephone connection from which our service was purchased.
You will be responsible for any costs incurred.

If we do not see that you have made payment within the next few days, then we will turn the
matter over to our legal department, an action that will incur additional costs for you.


You purchased:
_________________________________________________________________

Service: 30 days softly erotic membership vivis-homepage.com No. NFGH-7DZP
Net amount: 47,79 EUR
plus 19% VAT: 11,21 EUR
Delinquency fee net: 16,20 EUR
plus 19% VAT: 3,80 EUR
_________________________________________________________________
Total amount: 79,- EUR


Please transfer the outstanding amount of 79,- EUR incl. 19% VAT within 7
business days to the following account:


Account Holder: United Payment Limited
IBAN: DE26 1604 0000 0135 0545 01
BIC-/SWIFT-Code: COBADEFF160
Reference: NFGH-7DZP

Bank: Commerzbank Potsdam
Address: Karl-Liebknecht-Str.24
Postcode/City: 14482 Potsdam
Country: Germany


Pay with Credit Cart:
http://payment.vivis-homepage.com



You purchased this 30 days membership www.vivis-homepage.com by email on:
02.07.2009 Time 12:49:37.

Your IP address the time the agreement was concluded and the provider’s
name *
were stored on our server at the time of purchase.

You accepted the following:
* By clicking the button "Click now" you agree to buy 30 days membership
access at vivis-homepage.com. The one-time price for this 30 days access is 59 ,- EUR including statutory value-added tax.

The above information is clearly displayed on our website www.vivis-homepage.com.

To preclude someone from unknowingly making use of this service, we sent you a confirmation
email in which you clicked the confirmation link to activate our soft erotic content.

We ask you to pay the invoice, it is an unique ammount.
After payment entrance and expiration of the time the contractual relationship between us is finished.
A cancellation of membership is not necessary.

Thank you very much.

Sincerely,

United Payment Limited
Am Buchhorst 34
14478 Potsdam
Germany

United Payment Limited Accounting
Legal Venue: Birmingham District Court
Email: [email protected]
Legal Venue: Birmingham
Phone : 49 (0)331 - 8171600
Fax : 49 (0)331- 8171602

*****************************************
I have read many forums and wisited many sites and guess what they all say:
DONT PAY!
I'm a bit more relaxed because all the forums and sites (around 20 i read through) said the same thing. I read that someone has send them a mail that what they doing is an abuse and they never send anything back to him. I'm voiding contact with them ;))


BTW. U also have trouble with them?
 
No more of these threads please, they've become a tiresome epidemic and will be deleted in the future.
 
United Payment Limited

Hello, here I'm sitting in the exact same situation as this guy:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?p=7294723

Exept that I am 16 years old, which means I am not underage of their content (or am i?)

I'm pretty much dead worried about this shit, so I just prem deleted the gmail account they mailed to me on. (when i filled in my email @ that page, did i fill in my secondary email, that only had some wow-emails on it). I chose the deletion type that delete all content bound to it.

Am I to worry about this, or is it all just a fuckin silly scam from some homos that like to scare people? It also said that my IP when i "purchased", was something different than what www.whatismyip.com says. Does my IP change that often, or was the IP they told just bullshit?

Could someone please link me to some site that confirms that this is a scam, and that they are not allowed to do this? I mean, it said 30 days free membership. And as i've understood, if they can require money from me, will i have to use their product first? All i got acces to was the 30 day trial content (i think). Also, the way of payment they want is paypal. Creating a paypal account can take longer time than the limit they give me to pay, this is also abit stupid?

Thanks. I just want to get it confirmed that its a scam, which i sure hope it is. I also wonder how they are supposed to get me. I mean, they have my IP, indeed. But not my name, not my adress, not my phone number. And its not like they are gonna set FBI on the case, so getting that information from someone outside their own county can be rather hard, cant it?
 
to the last poster: don't post about this. it's already been covered. don't use derogatory language in this forum either.

for everyone else: if you have further questions about this issue, do not start a new thread. instead, read this thread in its entirety. it contains some helpful information. there is no need to have people repeat themselves. thanks.
 
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