Ulcerative Colitis and pills/mdma

[Paradigm4Live]

Hi guys, registered because this is a good thread, was looking for a thread that was sortof scientifically based!

I'm 25 yo and suffer from CU since 2011, mostly stress related. Currently inflamed since dec 2015. Cramps, diarrhea, but no blood fortunately. Currently on daily: mesalazine, 5mg prednisolon, and 100mg azathioprine. Got a festival coming op next week, and wondering what to do (mdma, 4fmp, weed, alcohol, etc etc). Haven't asked my doc yet but i guess i know what he'll say: UNADVISED. Been reading a lot online and there seems to be no actual drug interaction. It's mostly a decrease in immune system and higher risk in infection. My CU is currently in the most relaxed stage in months, only once a day to the toilet, barely cramps and stool is almost normal. So the circumstances are kinda good. I'm doubting between 4fmp and mdma. 4fmp is quite unknown (not on the opium list so sorta legal) but the effect lasts nice and long and you only have to take it once or twice for hours of fun. Mdma is something you have to take every 2 hours or so but is more known in the medical world. So if there's any complications after the festival they will have a better idea what's going on... so will i go for the nice but unknown drug (4fmp), for the know but heavier drug (mdma) or no drug at all (read: weed :,) )...? Hope there's people out there who might have advice for me.

Anyway I'll do my best to give my experience of the festival over here! I'll update after the party.

 

[milkstopher]

My ex-wife suffered from ulcerative colitis as well, and we had a pretty regular regimen of partying and pill consumption. Her physician did absolutely advise against pills (she had lied and said she was considering diet pills), but she generally threw caution to the wind, and did what she wanted.

She took her meds regularly, and everything seemed fine with her taking pills........ until it wasn't.

One Monday, after a weekend of partying, I came home for a lunch break, and found her unconscious on the floor in front of the bathroom, in a rather large puddle of blood, which had come her colon. I called the ambulance immediately, and thankfully, she was made it through just fine.

However, colonoscopy results revealed how severely she had been affected. What had previously been mild colitis, that was limited to only lower area of the colon, was now a long line of lesions that dotted the entire colon. She had to remain in the hospital for a few days, so that they could make sure she was safe from sepsis, before she was able to come home. All-in-all, it was a very frightening experience for me, finding her like that. But it was even more frightening for her; as she described going to the toilet, feeling the pain, while also feeling lightheaded, and looking down to see a bowl full of blood. She said she tried to get up to find the phone, and that's about all she remembers.

Bear in mind, that this was simply our experience, and may not be representative of average sufferer's experience with pills. There were also other factors that may have contributed to the severity of her incident; most notably being, that since pills often make you feel like you need to shit, and she had taken them so frequently, she didn't recognize the increased bowel activity as a symptom of her worsening colitis. (The doctor was so confused about why she hadn't come in sooner, and he said he was sure she must've been shitting at least 5 times a day.)

Sorry to drone on, but hopefully that helps a little. Long story short, if you decide to imbibe, at least pay attention to your body. If you have to start going a lot more than usual, more than one day in a row, it might not be the pill that's doing it.

 

[Katty]

I asked my specialist outright and he said there's no link with it making IBD worse but obvious risks. I said I've done it several times before and been fine and he said not to worry then. I think the main thing would be ensuring he is in a good place already as it obvs zaps energy and to monitor his water intake. I don't like it being said that you need to be careful of dehydration as a lot of deaths from MDMA have been due to over hydration. Your body can't expell urine as well and you can flood your cells so never try to drink extra water when on MD, just a normal amount is perfect. NOT A DOCTOR, THIS IS ALL MY OPINION AND BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE.

 

[Vruk]

I found this thread trying to figure out what's going on with me.

I've been taking ecstasy/MDMA since 2016. My symptoms started on Christmas Day 2019 and I was diagnosed with Microscopic Colitis almost a year later. I have used it once and a while all this time, because it didn't make my stomach worse. But now the MDMA doesn't work anymore.

I don't have a clue what happened. I took a pill in the spring and it worked fine. Then at the end of the summer I took a pill and nothing. It just makes me tense, but I get no euphoria and my pupils don't even dilate. I tried another pill and same, though I was sure it wasn't the pill because they worked for everyone else. Is there anyone else this has happened to? I'm in mourning right now, because I loved MDMA

 

[heerutosen]

Intermittent and especally longer term fasting can reverse or mitigate ulcerative colitis (not crones disease tho)

A friend of mine has colitis and after about 6 months of fasting and exercise he was able to roll without shitting himself and ruining his colitis further.

Fun fact. Fasting also reverses tolerance and damage, but only long term fasts. Never made it past day 5. Most clinics do 2 weeks.

Basically the body enters a state of autophagy (self cannabalism) It cleans up damages cells and can grow new ones( there are more pathways tho)

Check out the science on fasting on youtube, most research is russian in that docu, but it became a hot topic in the west aboout 1- years ago.

Take russian documents with a grain of salt, but a 2 week fast could receverse or ammerliorate, anxiety,depression,schizophrenia and a variety of brain discorders like autism and ADHD.

THerse clinics all over the west, but doing 3 day fasts once a month is easy (allthough I have been slacking). Will go again this summer. I need to go out and get distracted from food.

first 16 hours are the hardest. Peace ofcake after and not eating is a lot easier then eating less for waitloss lol