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UK hospital medication rules

Cheers camel - otherwise the rest of your post was very helpful and valid as despite my work ex. I have never had the experience of being an inpatient while on opiate substitution therapy.
 
Hi, thanks for all your informative replies, I will just take in three days worth as told. Last thing I want is to be in withdrawal when I've had a huge operation. And I definitely don't want to go back to taking morphine. Yes I was told in my pre op last night they would be locked in a draw next to me, and then nurses would hand them out. Thanks so much for well wishes too everyone, I'm getting pretty nervous now.

Clemfandango- yes I know, I get what you're saying, u do come across as a prick to be fair haha. But I quite frankly don't care, I know that I'm not off opiates yet, I'm not stupid. But what I do know is that I'm able to live a fairly normal life again, without being in withdrawal every 8 hours or desperately trying to find my next script. I'm able to run my business and take care of my disabled child. So I'm not arsed if I'm still taking opiates, at the end of the day I'm being able to live my life again and I'm happy. I will soon be completely opiate free, I've only been on subs since Jan and already reduced by half. You don't know that I'm weak, or my reasons for not being able to stay off opiates by myself, this site is somewhere for people like me to be able to talk and get advice without being judged,
 
It maybe different in the US, but I got the surgeon's ok to bring a specific med into the hospital for post-op pain. Morphine, sadly, makes me very nauseated. After logging it in, the nursing staff left it with me to be used after the surgeon did his job. Everyone was very cool about it, but that may be because I cleared it with the surgeon first.
 
Hi,

My experience is slightly different from yours but I'll share it anyway just incase you glean any useful info from it, mainly to do with staff attitudes.

I was admitted to hospital with agonising chest pains a few months ago, and after an x-ray the doctors suspected TB (which actually "just" turned out to be Pneumonia), which meant that I had to go into isolation due to it being rather contagious.

I was on 10mg of Subutex a day, and at that point was on daily pick up. I made this clear to the doctors when I went in, and I left a voicemail with my keyworker telling him about my situation. He rang the hospital and made sure that I got my medication and the nurses were completely cool about it, even if I had to press them for urgency as I was getting sick on the first day although I know they are really busy (I was in for two days). I even had a really sound doctor give me 90mg of DCH on the first night as I was starting to get sick which really surprised me.

I don't know why the doctors wouldn't give you your medication back - it's prescribed to you after all. That said, I doubt they'll search your bags and a few subs wouldn't be the hardest thing to hide in your possessions.

I also think I might be missing something here - what do you stand to gain by handing over your whole weeks worth of medication to them?

I'll finish by saying that I wish you the best of luck with your operation and I hope it runs as smoothly as possible

hey, no you're not missing anything except for the fact I don't know how long I'll be staying in for, so not sure if to give them my full weeks worth and risk it, or just a few days at a time. It's a big operation so we're not sure just how long I will be there. I probably will take some in my bag anyway, just incase. Thanks for your well wishes :)
 
It maybe different in the US, but I got the surgeon's ok to bring a specific med into the hospital for post-op pain. Morphine, sadly, makes me very nauseated. After logging it in, the nursing staff left it with me to be used after the surgeon did his job. Everyone was very cool about it, but that may be because I cleared it with the surgeon first.

my consultant said I'm to bring my own medication as to prescribe it in hospital could take a few days, the hospital I'm going to is a woman only hospital, it's only small and a small pharmacy inside. I'm sure time will tell, it's only three days away. Thanks for ur reply xoxo
 
I haven't worked a shift since Decemebr 2006 but I worked as RMN for 8 years beforehand.

One of the major sources of money wastage in hospitals across the board was that upon admission to hospital - patients were always asked to bring in all of the medication they were currently taking, so that the doctor on duty could use the information label on the packaging of any prescription medicines in order to transfer them verbatim onto the hospital 'treatment sheets'. The sheets acted not only as charts for us to record and sign for medicines if they were administered (and to record instances when they were not i.e. a refusal), but were in themselves legal prescriptions for current inpatients.

This was always seen as the most efficient way of transferring everything over as accurately as possible, as the patients may not have any other information regarding this such as photocopies of current outpatient scripts or recent GP letters with the entire treatment regime as of course many unplanned admissions occur out of hours and in these instances it could be up to 72 hours before we could confirm any of this with the GP directly (even if your subs scripts are issued by a specialist addiction service your GP should still have an accurate and current record of the drug and dosage to be taken).

After the patient was admitted, they were (and of course still are) not permitted to free access to any medicines they take so that everything that someone is administered during an inpatient stay is recorded as described above, as all responsibility for this is part of a nurses standard duty of care, making them legally accountable for anything that is or isn't taken, prescribed or unprescribed.

Once the doctor had finished their part of the admission process and re - prescribed any medicines that were to continue during their stay, we would basically remove them, throw them in the bin (of course, the 'bin' being a secure storage box for their collection and destruction by pharmacy staff) and we would then use our own ward and pharmacy stock from the drug trolley.

With the amount of unused medicines being dispensed and then thrown away being a major source of financial waste for the NHS top to bottom (a distance that decreases of course as more and more statuary services are sent out to tender) one small area that they could stop this was by changing the process above and introducing personal locked drug cupboards for individual patients so that they could use up there own supply before the hospital pharmacies had to dispense more drugs for continuing treatment.

In many hospitals now, the cupboard is usually located next to an individuals bed so although they may not have access to it they can at least monitor there own supplies as they are dished out, and from a legal perspective, even if your prescription medicine is not accessible to you under these circumstances they are still your own property and anything that has not been used should be returned upon discharge if still needed and prescribed.

Of course, cock ups do happen but if you can get it sorted at this late stage - any anxieties you may have about you original concern can be alleviated by having a responsible adult (preferably a direct relative such as a parent, sibling or spouse) hang on to you subs and only give the ward nurses a couple of days supply at a time, but as but as buprenorphine is a class C, schedule 3 drug it is very important that you have this arrangement firmly in place before you are admitted, as otherwise they could be liable to prosecution for being in possession of the drugs or even liable for their supply.

I hope that this is of some help but it is important to try and ensure that you have made contact with the ward staff prior to your admission as local policies and procedures covering this area can vary greatly between different inpatient settings.

Stee, I have nothing to add to this thread, other than to say that was an excellent post which answers every one of the OP's concerns.
 
Stee, I have nothing to add to this thread, other than to say that i have started to eat my own poo. Do you see this causing any problems in hospital? After all hospital food is shit anyway isn't it?
No it wont cause you problems at all bro. Tuck in.
 
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