Hi all.
I wanted to know if there are others who approach drug-taking, particularly in regards to dissociatives, with the intent of reaching or searching out of a "dark state", or more specifically a "nightmare" bent on trips?
Reading for me as a kid, one of my favorite authors was (and still is) Stephen King. I liked "Where the Wild Things Are" and such, but I adored the Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark and Goosebumps series. I loved the novels "Dracula" and "Frankenstein" when I read them from the very first time I read them as a young child. I can't count the number of times I've checked out the Library of America's "H.P. Lovecraft: Tales" from my local library (I highly respect the Library of America collections of many authors, including Walt Whitman). I lived with a father who grew up on "Twilight Zone" but now wished he had raised me in a childhood replete with "Outer Limits" (I don't know if collections were readily available in the 90's (the first half of my childhood), though). After reading Stephen King's Danse Macabre I have looked for all the editions of the Lights Out radio series from before the 1950's on Youtube that I can find. I wish the earliest run of the series was still extant (I don't believe many of them are) very much. I've never had much interest in RPG, adventure, etc. video games, but I have a total obsession with the "Doom" FPS series.
I've always enjoyed good dreams, but I've always thrilled in having nightmares. Earlier in my childhood I was interested in "lucid dreaming" but I've since become much more interested in night terrors. And thus it is that I came to eventually glory in exploring the darker side of trips through dissociatives. In the realm of psychedelics I've only really used DXM so far but I hope to delve into LSD and PCP eventually. My initial use with DXM involved very irresponsible trip hygiene that I will due my best never to replicate again. During first of the first five or so trips I had on DXM perhaps the 2 most distressing psychoactive events of my life occurred. Needless to say, If I had been able to vocalize my feelings during the trips it would have been strings of earth-shattering screams interspersed with "Oh Fuck, Oh Fuck, Oh Fuck...!" There was heavy disassociation. Eventually in time I was able to take the trips in perspective and remind myself to never practice poor trip hygiene like an absolute knucklehead. I've always liked how with dissociatives it seems that environment and positive/negative mental attitude largely effect the mental head space light spectrum. With that in mind in the future I hope to responsibly, sanely, and safely
I'm very grateful whenever I read of trippers encouraging others who have had bad trips to take the events in perspective, and instead of fearing them to learn from them.* It's incredibly hard in the moment and for awhile afterwards to remember that while the trip was adverse, the initial events are over and the experience is now to be learned from instead of being used as dread-inducing events that taint drug-taking forever.
So to come back from rambling I wanted to re-iterate asking the question that was the point of my post:
"I wanted to know if there are others who approach drug-taking, particularly in regards to dissociatives, with the intent of reaching or searching out of a "dark state", or more specifically a "nightmare" bent on trips?"
Also another question I forgot to ask: Has anyone here had the experience of reaching the fifth plateau?
[Note: With this post I'm not trying to create or contribute to doing things that might lessen the overall reputations of drug takers, certain drugs, or overall drug experiences. I understand that positive drugs and responsible drug takers, deserve respect and not to be fear- or hate- mongered, or have their dignity or credibility taken away. I also understand that in taking drugs I need to respect the safety of others and well-being of property, and that I I should engage in proper drug-taking and tripping hygiene.]
I wanted to know if there are others who approach drug-taking, particularly in regards to dissociatives, with the intent of reaching or searching out of a "dark state", or more specifically a "nightmare" bent on trips?
Reading for me as a kid, one of my favorite authors was (and still is) Stephen King. I liked "Where the Wild Things Are" and such, but I adored the Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark and Goosebumps series. I loved the novels "Dracula" and "Frankenstein" when I read them from the very first time I read them as a young child. I can't count the number of times I've checked out the Library of America's "H.P. Lovecraft: Tales" from my local library (I highly respect the Library of America collections of many authors, including Walt Whitman). I lived with a father who grew up on "Twilight Zone" but now wished he had raised me in a childhood replete with "Outer Limits" (I don't know if collections were readily available in the 90's (the first half of my childhood), though). After reading Stephen King's Danse Macabre I have looked for all the editions of the Lights Out radio series from before the 1950's on Youtube that I can find. I wish the earliest run of the series was still extant (I don't believe many of them are) very much. I've never had much interest in RPG, adventure, etc. video games, but I have a total obsession with the "Doom" FPS series.
I've always enjoyed good dreams, but I've always thrilled in having nightmares. Earlier in my childhood I was interested in "lucid dreaming" but I've since become much more interested in night terrors. And thus it is that I came to eventually glory in exploring the darker side of trips through dissociatives. In the realm of psychedelics I've only really used DXM so far but I hope to delve into LSD and PCP eventually. My initial use with DXM involved very irresponsible trip hygiene that I will due my best never to replicate again. During first of the first five or so trips I had on DXM perhaps the 2 most distressing psychoactive events of my life occurred. Needless to say, If I had been able to vocalize my feelings during the trips it would have been strings of earth-shattering screams interspersed with "Oh Fuck, Oh Fuck, Oh Fuck...!" There was heavy disassociation. Eventually in time I was able to take the trips in perspective and remind myself to never practice poor trip hygiene like an absolute knucklehead. I've always liked how with dissociatives it seems that environment and positive/negative mental attitude largely effect the mental head space light spectrum. With that in mind in the future I hope to responsibly, sanely, and safely
I'm very grateful whenever I read of trippers encouraging others who have had bad trips to take the events in perspective, and instead of fearing them to learn from them.* It's incredibly hard in the moment and for awhile afterwards to remember that while the trip was adverse, the initial events are over and the experience is now to be learned from instead of being used as dread-inducing events that taint drug-taking forever.
So to come back from rambling I wanted to re-iterate asking the question that was the point of my post:
"I wanted to know if there are others who approach drug-taking, particularly in regards to dissociatives, with the intent of reaching or searching out of a "dark state", or more specifically a "nightmare" bent on trips?"
Also another question I forgot to ask: Has anyone here had the experience of reaching the fifth plateau?
[Note: With this post I'm not trying to create or contribute to doing things that might lessen the overall reputations of drug takers, certain drugs, or overall drug experiences. I understand that positive drugs and responsible drug takers, deserve respect and not to be fear- or hate- mongered, or have their dignity or credibility taken away. I also understand that in taking drugs I need to respect the safety of others and well-being of property, and that I I should engage in proper drug-taking and tripping hygiene.]
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Good for you. I do think that I was a little harsh regardless, in my defence I did post in another thread on the same day about a friend or maybe just an acquaintance eventually that seems to have decided to kill himself after a few months where on at least on occasion he did have a very bad time on some hallucinogens, so I guess that was maybe kinda in my subconscious or something.