Aaah ok. Thanks MDPV.
Damn. That's unfortunate, cause I was a hardcore lover of tramadol and would love if there were some kind of easily accessible legal version of it. (some say kratom is, but I highly disagree).
I was on low doses of buprenorphine at the time, but was easily able to feel high dose tramadol (400mg range) at the time. Was disappointed when I tried the tianpetine sulfate.
I did notice an effect from the tianeptine and it wasn't necessarily bad, but it was very much a subjective head change (not a high) but felt nothing similar to an opioid or tramadol. I figured I should have at least felt some kind of mild extended duration opioid effect but wasn't able to perceive much of anything all the way up to 400mg of the sulfate and was cautious to raise the dosage any further.
I'd give tianpetine sodium a shot but i'm a little weary of messing with online vendors and need to hang onto my pennies. Maybe one day though.
I'm actually an oddball out there and having tried morphine, heroin, methadone, fentanyl, hydrocodone, oxycodone and buprenorphine, I still loved the unique effects that only tramadol seems to have and the rest don't. Most people pin this down simply to it's "SNRI" type of profile, but I think it's that + a whole combo of actions that tramadol has that aren't fully understood. But it surely is a fantastic compound.