Are you coming off kratom? How much were you taking daily? Did you taper at all?
For me kratom withdrawal seemed to peak around 24 hours (after a full dose), so you shouldn't need to wait too long.
Although I'm very surprised someone might experience precip wds from bupe due to kratom... and from only 0.1mg?
Or are you coming off something else?
Nope, just the Kratom. Was on Bupe for over a year. Got up to 16mg/day, worked down to 2mg then had a tough time lowering my dose. So I switched to kratom for a month in hopes I'd be able to hop onto a lower bupe dose and taper from there. I've tried tapering kratom I'm the past and never had luck. I always start feeling WD about 4 hours after my last dose which just leads to me increasing dose constantly. This time around I got up to about 15g per day.
The aches I got were manageable after the. 1mg of bupe, though the hot flashes we a surprise. Maybe i was just psyching myself out. I did fall asleep for an hour pretty quickly which I doubt I'd be able to do if I was in precipitated WD. Although I did promptly shit myself when i woke up (sorry, tmi). So I'm definitely experiencing lose stools. Overall I feel a lot better after a nap
I would give it at least 8 hours before trying again. I think your 50/50 reaction is a good indication that you're close to the right point. Give it the 8 hours and then retry your small dose of ~100mcg. Don't worry buddy. You're in the home stretch. Give it the time and you'll be just fine. I was always just stoked to know I wouldn't have to do a full "overnight" (being awake and unable to sleep, sick). Waiting 8 hours can seem like a bitch, but at least you'll be able to close your eyes tonight and hopefully have some sweet, confusing, pornographic dreams about digging up a chest full of Opana in your backyard, only to have you wake up before you can taste it.
Still a cool dream though? This was always my deal when I would quit. I'd have insane dreams about finding drugs hidden in my house. I know this is way too much information, but I've literally had wetdreams that were about nothing other than using Heroin. Now you know why people call their habits their "wife".
I appreciate the pep talk! I'll try again in 8 more hours or so. I'd just try kicking without the bupe at this point but I work tomorrow and I can't afford to be out of commission for 4 or 5 days which is how long the physical WD for kratom usually lasts for me
Take more bupe whenever you feel.
Kratom & bupe are pretty interchangeable.
I've never had precipitated withdrawal from taking bupe after kratom.
It's very doubtful some one would have PWD from 100 micrograms of bupe.
If anything, a person who uses kratom would probably get fucked up from bupe.
Kratom is small potatoes in comparison to buprenorphine.
Bupe is much, much much stronger than kratom honestly. You're actually swapping one drug for a stronger one. Although both still partial agonists, bupe is still insanely more potent. Bupe is atleast 50x more potent than morphine even.
It's kinda like switching to fentanyl to get off morphine...
People like to say bupe/suboxone/methadone is for "coming off of opiates" but it really isn't. They're incredibly strong maintenance meds that are meant to maintain people who cannot stop opiates & have heavy habits. They're not really drugs to use just to get over withdrawal. Especially from something like kratom. Although a disciplined person could use them for this purpose, I think a lot of people mistakenly think they can just take bupe for a few days & then they're not gonna have a problem anymore. What are you gonna do when you have to withdrawal from the buprenorphine then? Bupe withdrawals last 10x longer than any kratom withdrawal. So you could easily end up in an even worse situation.
If you're looking to stop opioids altogether, then just toughing out the withdrawal is your best bet.
If you're looking to maintain your habit or use a legal opioid for depression/pain relief then buprenorphine can help with that.
I understand what you're saying. I've tried tapering kratkm before but never had luck. I ways experience WD about 4 hours after my last dose which leads to increasing dosage constantly. I was actually on bupe for over a year. Got up to 16mg/day but got down to 2mg/ day. Found it very difficult to lower my dose, so switched back to kratom for a month with the hope I'd be able to switch back to bupe at .5mg or lower and taper from there. I know tapering bupe is supposed the get even more difficult the closer one gets to 0mg, but If I can skip 1.5mg of my taper by using kratom for a month, I'll take it.
I appreciate the replies everyone. I've used bupe and kratkm at the same time before but never had any problems. I've tried the bernese method with kratom and bupe before with success but this time around I don't have kratom to take with the bupe.
The fact that I was able to nap shortly after the hot flashes hit leads me to believe I'm not too deep in hot water. Gonna try to wait 8 more hours if I can before trying again. Until then just gonna try to stay hydrated since I have lose stools.
Took about 30mg of 2fdck to hell manage bodily discomfort, though I'm trying not to go hard on the dissociative since I had a difficult experience the other night
