The year 10,000

[clop]

i read this recently and this thread reminds me off it....there's an english scientist who talks about how by the time the sun is going to supernova, we will be like bacteria compared to what we are now. So us at that time will be so far evolved, we have no idea what they'll be like...

so granted that we don't kill ourselves, it seems that per our evolution that there's alot to be wondered about where we'll be at......

that's all i got.. =)

I'm sorry to disagree with your English scientist but I am an active amateur astronomer and I can tell you that our current sun does not have sufficient mass to supernova a third time. Yes it has supernovaed twice in the past (that's where all the iron, calcium, oxygen, carbon, silicon, mercury etc. on the earth has come from) but our sun's future is going to be quite dull this time round - it will simply burn away and cool down and one day it will just go dark. And it does not have sufficient mass to become a black hole either.

Download the following song with KaZaA or eMule or whatever:

In The Year 2525 by Zager & Evans

It paints quite a bleak picture of the development of the human race through the next 8000 years, exactly the period the original poster was thinking about.


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[zorn]

>>> I'm sorry to disagree with your English scientist but I am an active amateur astronomer and I can tell you that our current sun does not have sufficient mass to supernova a third time. Yes it has supernovaed twice in the past (that's where all the iron, calcium, oxygen, carbon, silicon, mercury etc. on the earth has come from) but our sun's future is going to be quite dull this time round - it will simply burn away and cool down and one day it will just go dark.

It's not really accurate to say that our sun has gone supernova in the past... it's partly formed from material ejected in past supernovae, but hasn't been through one itself.

 

[clop]

>>> I'm sorry to disagree with your English scientist but I am an active amateur astronomer and I can tell you that our current sun does not have sufficient mass to supernova a third time. Yes it has supernovaed twice in the past (that's where all the iron, calcium, oxygen, carbon, silicon, mercury etc. on the earth has come from) but our sun's future is going to be quite dull this time round - it will simply burn away and cool down and one day it will just go dark.

It's not really accurate to say that our sun has gone supernova in the past... it's partly formed from material ejected in past supernovae, but hasn't been through one itself.

Yes ok, the main point I was making was that the sun won't supernova in the future.

 

[Technic]

if we still are around in 8000 years then none of us could even begin to imagine how far advanced we would be. look at a 100 years ago to today and look how far we've advanced since then.. that in itself is amazing.. 8000 years is a helllllll of a bloody long time.. humans are capable of anything.

but my opinion.. if we continue as we are, we wont even make it that far. we're killing this planet verrrrrrrrrry quickly

 

[clop]

if we still are around in 8000 years then none of us could even begin to imagine how far advanced we would be. look at a 100 years ago to today and look how far we've advanced since then.. that in itself is amazing.. 8000 years is a helllllll of a bloody long time.. humans are capable of anything.

but my opinion.. if we continue as we are, we wont even make it that far. we're killing this planet verrrrrrrrrry quickly

In 1997, 73 countries signed up to the Kyoto Agreement. The only country that refused to sign the agreement was the United States.

The original agreement proposed reductions of CO2 of about 6% on 1990 levels. These were never going to do more than marginally slow the increase in global warming. The US refused to agree to it.

A renewed protocol, agreed on 23rd July 2001, set a pathetic reduction in CO2 of 1-3%. The US still refused to agree to it.

Compare this to the 60-80% CO2 reduction that most serious climate scientists insist must be achieved if global warming is to be halted.

President Bush on the Kyoto Protocol said,

"This is the American position because it's right for America,"

and, just to make the point clear, he added,

"We will not do anything that harms our economy, because first things first are the people who live in America."

The attitude speaks for itself. America is a dangerous and irresponsible country as long it maintains that it's own selfish wellbeing is more important than any long-term world wide problems, even where it is the USA itself that causes those problems.

With 36% of the world's greenhouse emissions and 25% of the whole world's carbon dioxide emissions, the USA appears to take responsibility for 0% of the consequences as long their bank balance is not affected.

A democratic government's function is to protect people, it's citizens, and the citizens of the world. In capitalist countries it is the government's job to keep commercialism in check and protect people from the inequality, oppression and money-orientated practices of big business.

Some people have been forced to wonder if the American government can still be considered to be working for the interests of people anywhere in the world, or if it is indeed simply the world's largest corporation.

 

[clop]

It's gone quiet. I guess there are more American bluelighters than I realised.

 

[sheiqdaddy]

Imagine what rave parties will be like in another 50 years!

woooooooooow, all those lights and eye candy.... *drools*
and the Music.... omg.... what kinds of new genres of music will there be?
Mind vibes: where you hook your brain up to a musical instruments, and it plays according to your brain waves ..... *drools again...*
I love technology

I am actually not looking forward thaaattt badly to the future of electronic music. The only hope for the future of electronic music is like you said, an actually great development in technology. Apart from that happy hardcore, or hardcore(nu energy{kevin energy, tazz..etc.}), is still cool, but no one has been able to put a soul into genres like those yet. I hope the next generation doesnt end up listening to static noise. IMO all IMO.
peace.

 

[Slay]

I see nothing. Man cant make it. It seems we gonna crash. Overwhelming of mankind. The future is no good, there's no such thing called "future". We all goin to fail. Future is worthless. Even this universe has an end. Our world, those planets and stars, this sweet harmony, going to fail someday.

 

[DexterMeth]

The major problem that any future civilizations would find, should there be a major collapse leading to a technological dark age, like what happened in Europe after the fall of Rome, is that we have already extracted all of the easily accessible oil and other fossil fuels. In other words, they would need technology which they dont possess in order to reach the oil needed to achieve that technology.

So we could see a replay of the agricultural revolution, but the industrial revolution appears to be a one-time event. Either we continue to develop into the technological revolution with advanced energy technologies (and at its most basic level, a society needs energy, whether the product of physical human labor, draft animals, or fossil fuels to survive), or humans will never be able to advance past the level of the Roman or early British empires.

HYDROGEN POWER. 95% of the known, physical universe is composed of hydrogen. We will all be driving hydrogen cars in 10-20 years. Goodbye fossil fuels.

 

[DexterMeth]

doesn't anyone believe in a "glitch" in the system?

If i could pick and choose, i would rather have lived in the times of the Renasainse. Funny, i cant even spell it. How bastardizing.

 

[Jimmy the Gun]

A short but massive nuclear war kills billions. Most major cities are in ruins and almost every microchip has been fried as a result of EMP blasts. What happens after this is anyone's guess.

 

[massive]

I'm writing the "dummie's guide to rebuilding civilization" at this very moment.

 

[Slaughterhousefive42]

You too? What's yours called?

 

[Slaughterhousefive42]

Renewable Free energy from the water, the sun, and wind isn't too bad of a start. Technologically, we are accelerating toward the technologikal singularity. The asymptote of a blurry but clear point of intelligence.

 

[xxuxx]

A lot of you are keen on a technological dark ages, precipitated by the depletion of oil and other resources.

I have a little more faith in the technologies which enable alterative energies that may just be able to service a large post-industrial infrastructure. However, and this is the really big however, whoever holds the key to this post-industrial alterative energy knowledge, will dominate the future, after the oil and coal runs out. Of course, the west at the moment leads the world in alterative energy technology, but at this early stage that means bubkiss. What countries really have the basic parameters needed to lead the alternative energy technologies. I have a feeling that the countries which are less affluent, but nonetheless developed and advanced, when the political will becomes available, will the better regions for the full development of alternative energy technology and implentation and development. This is because any alterative energy technologies advanced on a large scale and under the urgent conditions that it will most mostly been done under, will have to retreat backwards a little bit (in terms of productivity and efficiency). The affluent west will find it harder to do this. The answer to alterative energies is simple, it's just undesirable for a large, affluent country in economic terms.

By 10, 000, however, oooh, definitely colonisation of other planets. We might be in a new ice-age by then though. Especially the way we're speeding up the climate change process. Cooler conditions on Earth might actually create additional incentive for people to migrate to Mars - provided our population is hard to sustain during an ice-age.

Okay, Siberia will be fertile farmland as far as the satelitte can see. The Equator will be dry as all hell. USA will be a dustbowl, Mexico wet. Landmass will have been lost from icecaps melting, but people will still survive. Europe will be a block of ice. The middle-east will be calm and uneventful. Africa will be the dominant power in the world. China will still be the most populous nation on the planet.

 

[blissfulMenace]

What I see is a destroyed earth, nothing left thanks to us... the spreading virus on this earth.

What I hope is a more balenced earth where humans dont exist and all the other animals are thriving. A true anarchy where no animal rules all the rest.

 

[DexterMeth]

^Or throw you're gulliver in the ole' blender and make a slushy. You even tried to make "virus" sound negative. A true anarchy in nature? A true anarchy at all, ever? It's not a true anarchy all the time? Utter chaos and confusion? The game of existence where anyone and everyone can be in or out, or both...never knowing who's the enemy, who's on your side, who's the cops, who's the crooked politician,blah blah blah. A black widow's earie bite of venom...$2 crackwhores. Glitches in the fully electronic system that's hooked up to billions of phone wires. The smell of shit can be replicated in a lab. Pestacides and genetically engineered mutant tomatoes. Meanwhile, most of the cockroaches will survive the nuclear fallout and be the next so called "rulers" of the planet. Perhaps the radiation will enlarge their brains. Childhood incest and shopping mall chains. Chains on your ankels, hands behind your back. Musical evolution, and acid rain on my tongue. Spacetimewars, vietnam napalm, and the Hitler Youth Bragade. Helena with the face that lauched a thousand ships compilled of 20 consecutive lifetime Chinese Emperors....inflicting onto the masses whatever their synaptic cleft fired upon the occassion. Another 3 million heads thrown onto some spikes, all because Prozac was not yet invented.I'm no longer mocking you. Just let me in on the secret of where the magical anarchy stick is hidden.8)

 

[redeemer]

I think we will still be living on the earth. Mars is inhabitable because of its climate, but maby we can live there in like 100,000 years.

I'm convinced we will evolve to a better society, who would be interested in blasting the whole earth into peaces with nuclear weapons?

Maby an asteroide will hit us... it happened to the dinosaurs.

Currently, I don't think we are capable of imagining the technology in 8,000 years. 8,000 years ago humans had just begun inventing a written language think about how much we have evolved since then. Furthermore, the technological evolution is speeding up because we use our new invetions to discover new things and we thereby invent new things with which we can discover new things etc. etc.. This means that the difference between now and 8,000 years ago compared to now and 8,000 years in the future will be enormous. Maybe we will have found a complete explanation of certain areas of nature, ie. physics, and therefore nothing more to discover there.

 

[Psychedelics_r_best]

The ommpalumpas will have invaded dimension y and killed all the wangdaddlers. They then will invade New York in mass numbers, spitting in the water, which will then pollute the water and kill all humans. In 10,000 years, human life will indefinately be dead.

 

[Psychedelics_r_best]

In 10,000 years the world we be soo fucked up you cant begin to comprehend things. Our brains will probably be implanted with numerous computer chips in the automated proceses of being born. WE will be capable of doing millions of caclations per second and can envision things, travel places, play games without even moving. We wont need sleep because we will be genetically engineered to self produce stimulants. Certain parts of our brains at birth will automatically be shut down to avoid inefficinecy in the future, such as emotional development. Humans will no longer have any barriers between them and they shall exist in a hive manner. Nanotechnology can delay death for past 1000 years. Other technology will include laser extraction, the creation and destruction of planets by manipulating gravity through artificial bodies, and bombs capable to destroying entire galaxies. People can enter teleportation devices and be transported anywhere via satellite as everywhere will be synanymously interconnected with each other. Temporal devices are built that delay time by imposing unusually extreme conditions such as that of a black hole. Sexual function will of course have been removed hundreds of years before and all that is needed to produce more humans will be an outlet connected to synthesizing machines that can produce another human ready to walk in a day. Earth will have long been made void of all life save the endless mining facilities sucking the last vital element resources from it. Humans shall not need specified living spaces but will just be zapped between jobs in need. All nutrienst needed to live will be self produced. Nothing besides the continued expansion of the human civilization is focused on, for if considered someone can compose music, make paintings or sculptures visually in there head then telepathically send it to anyone else, who can envision it just as well as they could ever see of hear the actual thing. Spaveships that must be tranposrted to new territory outside sattilite matrixes can propel themselves by magnifying the gravity of near by spacial bodies to pull and push them along inside their own shell where they escape standard physics so they make travel up to 1 million times the speed of light.

This is only our future as of now in 10,000 years. If you wish of it to be any different I reccommend killing yourself, it might result in slightly different results.