^welcome to bluelight!
i think with this drug - and so many others - the danger is not necessarily in the drug itself, but the way it is used.
there is something about the label 'evil' or 'devil' drug that i am really suspicious of. is MDPV still the devil if it is used by someone in a single, conservative dose for the sake of achieving some goal (such as studying, dancing, or insatiably fucking all night)?
the thing with research chemicals is that people tend to buy them in fairly large quantities, as (for australian users at least) things like MDPV are a lot cheaper (per dose or per gram) than illicit black market equivalents like methamphetamine.
at least methamphetamine has a culture of use that has developed enough in this country for people to know roughly what a 'normal' dose is, and what may conceivably happen if you overdo it.
most meth is so adulterated that people are generally dosing considerably less than what their 'shard' or whatever weighs up to - some proportion is usually inert cut.
when these people who are used to meth score a bag of 98+% pure peevee over the interwebs or what have you, the tendency (as the post above demonstrates) is to feel like you have a limitless supply, and duly throw caution to the wind, or at least to treat this new drug like one (with similar effects) that you are familiar with. both of these options are really dangerous.
@trexman, when you talk about your friends ending up in psych wards, were they taking excessive amounts of MDPV? were they redosing multiple times and increasing their doses as they did so? this is a recipe for a psychotic reaction, as many online sources will tell you.
there may not be an agreed-upon dosage of the stuff (it's a 'research chem') but if you read enough online info and trip reports, you start seeing the patterns of use that cause problems. quite extreme problems! it's not exactly a well kept secret.
i wonder if any of your mates made an effort to do this prior reading before caning the stuff?
i did a lot of research before experimenting (knowingly) with RCs as i was primarily interested in MXE to begin with.
the only really bad horror stories i saw with that stuff were tales of habituation (which i knew to be wary of) and tales of people more familiar with ketamine treating MXE like k.
now, the sort of dosages ketamine users take are a lot higher than the recommended dosages of MXE - so much so that some foolhardy individuals (often in the UK where there is a big ketamine culture) would rack up k-sized lines and suck 'em back.
what followed would often be delusion, delirium, seizures and all kinds of nasty medical shit.
basically, that's what happens if you don't respect something, or don't make the effort to know what you're playing with.
if you treat a new drug like a drug you are more familiar with - especially a diluted street drug - you are likely to run into trouble.
research chemicals aren't necessarily safe. they're not necessarily understood, and often we are the guinea pigs for the rest of mankind if we choose to indulge.
it is not free licence to go wild with the stuff (although that option is open to you) but i think we all owe it to ourselves (our minds and bodies) to show these substances the respect they deserve. a lot of them are fucking powerful; MDPV is a prime example.
if you play with fire, you may well get burned. so you have to be as careful as you can.
you're not "saving the kids" or whatever today tonight rhetoric you want to throw around by slagging of MDPV. i haven't tried it, but some people love the stuff.
if you have a read through this and other bluelight subforums, you will see that practically everyone here is already well aware of the potential danger of MDPV, but some folk see the risks as worthwhile. others don't - and that's alright!
warnings and horror stories are everywhere on bluelight.
but going around like some kind of saviour preaching the evils of some drug? well, we've heard that one before buddy.
some people say meth is evil. some people say tobacco is evil, or alcohol, or heroin, or LSD or even ol' cannabis - but in my opinion it is bullshit every time. the potential for harm is always there, but these are just substances. it is not until we put them in our bodies that they become dangerous, and even then any 'evil' intent is more likely to be our own carelessness or stupidity than it is a malevolent force.
i understand that you are trying to spread the word about this, but seriously - it's old news. to the point that MDPV has been explicitly scheduled in australia and much of the world. as a 'legal high' this one is a spent force. the cat's out of the bag, so to speak.
so you can either try and heed the advice of mods like footscrazy, or you can be a troll. trolls don't last long around here, so the choice is yours.
. I only vape it.
