Pretty agree in mostly everything you say.
Yeah I think we mostly agree, too.
I would say a beer is like 10 times less powerful than a benzo, at least. In fact most people can´t even feel one beer, but most all non tolerant user will get massive effects with an valium
I so rarely drink, that I can be buzzed from just one beer especially on an empty stomach. I’m of average height and build, I just have no tolerance to booze like I did in my 20s. Regardless, drinking a beer will not take me out of a heavy trip the same way a benzo does, and beer is not nearly as anxiolytic.
taking one benzo […] at the beggining is just wasteful.
Yeah, perhaps you’re right. But I’m not talking about taking the benzo at the same exact time as the LSD. If you take, say, etizolam, which has a ~4-hr. window of action, and on hour 2 or 3 you drop acid, the LSD still works and comes on while the Etiz rolls off. See what I mean? But no, the trip will not be as intense as it would be if you started out w/o the etiz; you’re correct there. Some people wouldn’t take the psychedelic otherwise, though, so it’s a compromise suitable for some people. And it encourages subsequent trips w/o the benzo in the future.
Im here talking from 15-20 years of taking psychedelics. YMMV, of course
I’m not trying to one-up you here or anything, but I had my first acid trip over 27 years ago, and I’ve taken copious amounts of a wide variety of psychedelic drugs, dissociates, research chems, designer drugs, kitchen chemistry compounds, and even some phenethylamines I produced myself many years ago, beyond the statute of limitations, in a clandestine lab. I’m not just talkin’ out my ass, I promise you.
Finally I get the impression that benzos are nasty drugs that are better taken just in crisis situations and getting used to it just brings brain erosion and nastyness, which are more or less the opposite of psychedelics, which are like soul/spirit nurturing chemicals, but again, I understand that this is a pretty subjective POV and YMMV
Well yeah so you have some very specific ideas in your head that you associate benzodiazepines to, evidently. Thinking they are “nasty drugs” that bring “brain erosion and nastyness” is a very subjective opinion, not to mention quite British. I don’t think of them as nasty one bit, but then, I don’t abuse this class of drugs. I’m sure one’s opinion on them might change markedly should one have had, shall we say, less-then optimal experiences on them? It’s certainly worth noting that in higher doses, benzos become inebriating, strongly disinhibiting, and inductive of compulsivity in many people. They can cause anterograde amnesia temporarily during its effects, and when coupled all together, these effects can produce embarrassing, sometimes disastrous, results.
However, with some caution, forethought, and self-discipline, all of this can be avoided. How easy this is for the user depends on their level of self-control and how they generally do with compulsive habits. The ability to control this is partially genetic, but only partially. It does not mean it can’t be overcome, nor that it’s a guarantee to never afflict a person. Suffice to say, not every drug is for everybody. Know thyself, and accept one’s limits with one’s strengths. But discover them for yourself and don’t take anyone’s word for what’s what, my own words included.
EDIT: I wanted to say I think of benzos as lovely warm blankets of mind-fuzz and musculoskeletal relaxation. They’re calming and enveloping, peaceful and tranquil. They’re also hypnotic, sedative, somnolent, and amnesic. But when taken infrequently and in lose doses, they are magically delicious, and they help induce appetite, which can be very beneficial and useful in certain situations. I never take them frequently, and in this manner I avoid tolerance, which equates to also avoiding dependence. Etizolam especially has a much lower rate of accumulation in the nucleus accumbens, which makes it a lower risk for tolerance and dependency than other drugs in its class owing to etizolam being a thienotriazolodiazepine, technically.
