I have had a sample of 5-MeO-MiPT lying around for some time and might give it a try in the near future. I thought about starting with 6-8mg maybe, what do you guys think, is that reasonable or would you go lower?
Xorkoth, skimming over this and the previous thread I read your descriptions of doing "energywork" on this substance and percieving depression and anxiety as "energy being stuck" or something like that and then being able to work it out somehow. I found that very interesting, but I can't quite picture what you were actually doing, are you talking about meditation or is it more about yoga/dancing/physical activity or something else completely?
Is this your first occasion using this batch of chemical? If yes, then start with an allergy test of 100ug or less. This protects you if you were given the wrong chemical or if you have an idiosyncratic reaction. After the allergy test slowly increase your dose over multiple experiments while letting your tolerance subside between each attempt. Eventually you should reach an active dose. As a reference, Shulgin gave 4-6mg of pure 5-MeO-MiPT as the oral dose range.
Thanks, I will rethink my approach. What I usually did in the past was to do an allergy test first, then proceed to take one dose that should be below threshold level and then take a dose that should be above threshold level though not too high. I was thinking to drop the middlestep this time, but I guess you are right that this is not an activity where it's harmless to cut corners. On the other hand one always has to trade in safety for practicality to a certain extent. Of course the smaller the increase with each dose the better, but how many steps do you usually use to feel reasonably safe?
but how many steps do you usually use to feel reasonably safe?
did it really dissolve or just mix with the water? if it was a freebase, it wouldn't dissolve properly, and also be more caustic than a salt.Tried an ultimately disastrous experiment last week. I love 5-MeO-MiPT and have enjoyed it orally from 8-9 mg many times. Still, I get pretty uncomfortable come-ups so I decided to try plugging (which works well for me with 2C-B and 2C-E).
Plugged 6 mg in solution. Super comfortable come-up and a lovely 5-6 hour trip.
BUT! After the trip faded I found myself wracked with excruciating pain. 5-MeO-MiPT might as well have been caustic acid in my rectum. I'll spare you the unpleasant details but it was maybe 5 hours of extremely bad pain that did not allow me to even think about anything else. Eventually I was able to sleep and felt mostly better in the morning.
I have learned my lesson. For now on I'll only plug a new substance if I can find dozens of glowing reports. 2-3 forum comments aren't enough and it isn't absolutely not worth the risk.
In my experience, 5-meo-mipt doesn't burn at all--at least considering the dosages it's active at. Is there any possibility you injured yourself during administration but didn't notice till later? Was there any redosing, or dosing of other drugs, or... *ahem* anal play afterwards? It is a strong vasoconstrictor so it would be quite easy to hurt yourself down there after its onset.
Also intestinal bloating, diarrhea, and similar are all fairly predictable effects of administering a SERT-active compound rectally--or even orally, as some know. I'm sure sensitivity to this effect will vary by individual.