Smoked: Pretty much inactive. Unlike PCP, this is probably the worst method of ingestion
Plugging: The best method of ingestion, although some may feel uncomfortable using it this way. However, it has the greatest bioavailability via this route and thus requires a much lower dose
Insufflated: The second best method of ingestion.
Oral: Third best method of ingestion, although the difference between this and snorting is not all that noticeable, besides - I assume - a quicker. come up, faster onset of peak, and shorter total duration
Dose
N.B. I have no info on doses for plugging, but a simple educated guess from extrapolation means it's about accurate.
Light/Threshold (Oral) - 10mg
Light/Threshold (Insufflated) - 5-10mg
Light/Threshold (Plugged) - 5mg
Common (Oral) - 25mg
Common (Insufflated) - 20mg
Common (Plugged) - 10mg
Strong (Oral) - 30mg
Strong (Insufflated) - 25mg
Strong (Plugged) - 15mg
The Experience
* Somewhat stimulating, but not an uncomfortable stimulation
* Very similar effects to that of Ketamine but with more pronounced effects than commonly experiences with K
* Quite a clean feel to the high
* Duration unknown but - due to its relative potency - I imagine ~2-3hrs max, with an afterglow similar to Ket
Wanted to hear other reports, but will just add I have taken it up to 150mg or so, and it was fucking amazing.
This was orally.
Not much amnesia, although I did have a tolerance, it was like k holing, but far more memorable and lucid. I flew down massive tunnels of red ever changing patterns with different decisions branching out. I had entity contact and it was really mystical in a way, I way preferred it to k, so much cleaner.
The day afterwards I felt incredibly clear and happy, albeit uncoordinated.
It's unfortunate that smoking does not work at all, but it is such a beautiful drug when taken orally, nasally or plugged.
hope you don't mind phreak!
Not an analog. As per the latest clarification from the DEA, adding a methoxy group to a molecule makes it not a positional isomer and therefore not a scheduled drug under the Analog Act.
I was wondering if anyone could clarify on this. Being within the U.S. myself, this statement is very intriguing.
Anyway, the experience. With around 10mg taken orally, it took nearly an hour to come on, but that was on top of a fairly large meal around 3 hours before. The effects lasted around 2 hours. There was a pleasant body disassociation and a mild stimulation. Not much in the way of mental effects, the ability to hold a normal conversation was not affected in any way. I had no desire to stab either her, or my own eyeballs. I felt a bit cold and shivery, which is something I suffer from on ketamine, but it was bloody freezing anyway. I guess 10mg orally is still a fairly light dose on this stuff. I was able to sleep fine right after, and the next day there seemed to be no residual effects.
I'm down now (temporarily), but fucking hell that was amazing. And yes, so visual, it was fantastic.
Okay. This is advise to an experienced Dissociatist and hardcore RC tester: This stuff isn't stimulating like PCP and doesn't make you go into a state of delirium like the horror stories of PCP say. I just went into a K-Hole on 4-MeO-PCP. Comparably: the entire experience is much more lucid and crystal clear. You can direct where you want to go better than on K. The physical sensation (pulling, sucking, falling, floating, stretching, spinning, rolling...) are all amplified which makes the trip fantastic. You can only compare it to K subjectively once you've tried it, but - personally - I find that a 4p hole* is more malleable, intense, red (for some unknown reason), and tactile. Basically, when you enter it, it's like a slow-onset K-Hole but you seem to peak right in the middle - which is great. The euphoria is present throughout. I also find I have more "power" over the trip than with Ketamine. Don't get me wrong, K is still my preference (man how I would love to try the two together), but just now I thought that the 'hole' was slowly ending so I said (out loud) "float"...and I did! It was brilliant. I thought I'd come down off it but then I decided I'd like to fly for a bit, so I ordered my trip to do so and it responded! It's awesome...
Seriously though, you've gotta try it for yourself. Play around, have fun with it, find your personal favourite dose. I'm partial to the more intense experiences myself so I'm using loads of the stuff. Even though it's sedating the drop into reality is quite stimulating so after the experience it's quite hard to sleep. Personally. But I'm an insomniac so it might not be such a problem for others. I have to say though, that plugging is really the only way to go. If you've got stigma about it, do it once, experience it, and you'll get over it because it's effing awesome!