I'm glad someone else mentioned a dissociative plus 5-ho-mipt.
I did:
-300mg DXM over 20 minutes to make sure I'm not even so much as a little naseated @ 190lb bw. I find taking 300mg/20min keeps me from getting more than mildly nauseated even into a strong 3rd plateau. It also makes it more trippy, visual, and peaceful and less of a high, stoned, pushy stimulating feeling in my experience after doing both ways to the 3rd plateau. DXM/DXO conversion rate? I took gel capsules from a pharmacy store.
-2hr past dosing DXM took 10mg 4-ho-mipt oral. 2 hours to make sure any potential stomach issues from dxm wouldn't be there, but would probably do 1-1.5hr next time so I get to experience feeling both coming up at the same time.
-1hr later took 10mg more oral
-1hr later insufflated 10mg
-1.5hr later insufflated 5mg
-30min later insufflated 5mg more
-1.5hr later, take 500mg phenibut
I did this as my 2nd experience of 4-ho-mipt one week after dosing 20mg oral at once for a mild-moderate trip. Not a social drug to me not b/c of paranoia or losing myself or anything but just b/c it makes me super spacey.
I don't think I took enough DXM to alter and synergize the trip enough. Surprisingly to me, it was additive as opposed to being more than the sum of its parts like acid and dxm. It changed the headspace some as to make the experience a little more alien and it toned down the bodyload of the 4-ho-mipt and took away the normal aches and body tension I feel so that it wouldn't taint the trip but also took away a lot of the pleasant tactile sensations of 4-ho-mipt. It also added a pushing and driving force to the trip but I'm betting that's because it was a low 2nd plateau and I was still experiencing stimulation form the 1st plateau that mostly goes away mid-high 2nd plateau. I wanted the dxm so I could forget about my body and focus more on the headspace and hopefully increase visuals like when I combined with a low dose acid but visuals were not increased.
Also unusually, I felt like a need, almost kind of a compulsion to redose. I think that was the driving force of that dose of DXM. The first redose was something I decided I would do after an hour if I didn't feel like I was where I wanted to be, but the insufflation was totally spur of the moment. Not like me typically at all w/ psychadelics. Like it was something I had to do as part of the 'journey' and 'learning' and the only way to reach the 'destination' whatever that is if there was one. I think that was the interpretation of the DXM stimulation through the lens of the 4-ho-mipt. Time will tell if there was actually anything learned and what to make of that.
I also wonder If I spread the 4-ho-mipt dose out too much for full effects. Visuals were mild, some minor warping of flat surfaces and some objects beginning to alternate between getting smaller and bigger to a small extent. Abstract paintings and trip art did neat things. Granted it takes a lot of anything for me to get even moderate visuals as I've seen people report on psychedelics. It's not uncommon for me to take a dose of acid from the same batch that'll make a persons hand melt and I'm just kinda meh about the visuals. Towards the end, I could tell the dxm wore off and I was getting tired so I ended with 500mg phenibut and then couldn't sleep till10 am. DXM was dosed at 10pm.
Here's some thoughts I had and I'd love your thoughts about them b/c I'm open to doing things differently:
-take a high 2nd plateau to a low 3rd plateau dose of dxm
-dose oral 15mg 4-ho-mipt 1.5hr after the last gelcap I take
-have a 2 5mg lines of 4-ho-mipt prepared beforehand and maybe or maybe not redose one or both lines If I'm not where I want to be within an hour after the initial 4-ho-mipt dose
That's a dxm dose that'll leave me with a hangover for most of the next day and make getting to sleep at a decent hour difficult and it'll be shitty sleep so I'll need to make sure I don't have much to do the next day. I'll keep phenibut on hand in case things get intense but it takes for me 45-60min to start working and 1.5hr before max effects but just knowing it's about to be more much more easily managed will help during the time it takes for phenibut to start working.