Tightlywound. Some people can actually feel good from bupe and catch a nice buzz almost any ROA they use.. I'm one of those people. It gets me high! no lie.. I only IV my subutex now, because I also have a needle addiction, and well IV is like 98-100% BA. I also take a daily dose of klonopin with it, so that could be why it gets me feeling so good. If I smoke even just like 2 hits of some good weed too I will be nodding out from the bupe and benzos, plus the THC. Completely faded as if I did a full agonist. Also I do low doses at around 2mg or less each shot, spaced out thru the day. Like 3-4 2mg shots on the average day. But I will say that plugging, while it may not be quite as efficient as IV, is the next best ROA I have tried, feels much stronger than sublingual or sniffing, sniffing is the next best to plugging... I hate taking any pill sublingually, I get way too much saliva that builds up in my mouth and it also doesn't feel nearly as strong as the other 3 ROAs I mentioned.
But some people I know say they don't feel a thing from bupe, even if they take low doses.. Less is more to an extent with any kind of bupe.. suboxone, zubsolv, or subutex. I say to an extent because, I don't feel jack shit if I do those micro gram doses some people claim are much stronger, I feel perfect at 1-2mg at a time, no more no less, if I do like 4mg I don't feel nearly as good.. anything more than 4mg is total overkill and anything less than like 0.5mg to 1mg is too little for me, 2mg is the perfect dose to me, at least with IVing it. How much do you usually IV at a time tightlywound? If its more than 2mg a dose, that might be why your not feeling it, or it could just be your one of those people who doesn't get a buzz from bupe. I have no idea why some people do and some don't get high from it, but I definitely do get high from bupe. Starts out rather sedating feeling, sometimes I catch a small nod, nothing as much as I would with some good H or some dilaudid though.. call me crazy, but the high I get feels slightly similar to oxy in a way, because after the sedation I get real energetic and just have generally nice feeling for hours... It would make some sense too since oxy and bupe are both derived from the same thing, a plant called, thebaine.
I usually IV 2-3mg (~1/4 of an 8.6mg zubsolv) ~4x/day, every several hours.
I have IVed microgram doses and up to like 18mg of the shit at once -- nothing.
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HOWEVER, I will say, I've only ever had a scrip for bupe/naloxone, and I have NEVER been able to feel ANYTHING off that ...but STRAIGHT bupe (i.e. subutex) I CAN get a little but noticeable buzz/sometimes even a very slight nod off of for just a couple-few hours, if I IV 10mg++ (no less will do jack shit). I know, I know -- everybody says that the naloxone doesn't do shit, and if you can cop a buzz on subutex that you can cop a buzz on suboxone; but that is most definitely NOT true for me. and it is certainly not a placebo effect...the first time I IVed subutex (just bought a couple pills off an acquaintance who happened to have some as a one time thing when I was out of zubsolv and the pharmacy was fucking up, not having my shit in stock) I did most definitely not expect to feel anything at all, just as I'd never felt anything at all from my bupe/naloxone, because I'd always been under the impression that the naloxone didn't do jack shit & was just a marketing ploy. <<-- but surprise surprise when I did get a little bit high -- I was shocked! now whenever I'm admitted in the psych hospital, they only provide subutex there vs bupe/naloxone, and I stash away 4-8mg each day of my 12mg dose and get to have a nice little bit of an opiate buzz when I get back home, w/o failing my drug test at the sub doctor. xP like you said, it's NOTHING compared to dilaudid, H or even morphine...I wouldn't even compare it to oxy...but I don't like oxy anyway and have hardly ever even done it so...
Yes it's normal fresh veins deliver more punch.YES! I feel the same way, about suboxone vs subutex. ITS NOT A PLACEBO, definitely not a placebo.. suboxone does give me a buzz, but subutex straight up gets me high! I would also compare to oxy myself.. not quite as strong.. its like a partial agonist oxy lol. The same sedating onset, with the slowly more and more energetic high, with waves of sedation every 20-30 mins.. when I slam it at least. I was on suboxone for like 2 years maybe 1.5 years.. I forget exactly.. but it was before subutex. I had these generic, white, half moon logo suboxone, from actavis I believe and they were the only suboxone that came anywhere close to subutex, for me.. no nasty orange dye, no orange/pill flavor(nastyyy af), and prepped up nicely for IV.. I mostly sniffed them back then, then tried plugging em.. liked it. and well I already knew my way around the needle, so before long I was slamming those, and they weren't as good as tex, but they worked... I liked those the best out of any bupe/naloxone products.. fuck the strips! I hate those things... never again will I get those if I can help it. But yeah, some people think I am crazy and making it up that subutex gets me high... it only feels perfect when I do 2mg a time IV.. that's my magic dose.. Love my first shot when I wake up in the morning.. that one gets me super nice feeling!! This morning I was truly nodding out, couldn't keep my eyes open from the shot I did! I hit a brand new vein with a fresh rig, and 2mg of tex.. for some reason whenever I use a new, untapped vein with tex, or really anytjing I slam, it seems to feel a bit stronger for some reason.. am I the only one who gets that??