cosmic._.ape
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- May 30, 2010
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So I got hooked again, have been consuming over 20 grams of kratom a day for the last year. A problem with the post forced me to make an emergency tappering. I didnt have any meds but unlimited amounts of cannabis (i grow it on my orchard) and a syrian rue extract 25:1 HCL.
I had never tried harmalas before.
I put a small amount (20mg) inside my glass pipe bulb, it melted popped, the vapor is not that bad... but it is caustic and i have been having lots of flems and mucus in my lungs since.
The other way i have been consuming it is by putting a small amount, like twice as much as i put in the pipe, like 40 or 50 mg under my tongue. It is caustic and it made me some ulcers, but it is totally worth it.
Smoke it the effect last 20 or 30 minutes. Sublinguali it lasts about 2 hours. During the time it lasts, it gives a great relief from withdrawals, though. It takes away the restlessness, it melts it away. That horrible resless limbs and trunk... the worst torture from kratom withdrawal, goes away while the effect of the peganum harmala (syrian rue) lasts.
Plus, it lifts the mood, counteracting the dark cloud in the mind that kratom withdrawal brings, that depression.
Just before smoking the extract the first time, i was already in withdrawal, cranky, demotivated, antisocial... syrian rue reversed all that.
Without it, I dont think I could have slept at all for the first 2 days. Thanks to the rue, I could sleep 2 naps of 2 hours each every night.
THe cannabis also helped, of course, but I know by I experience that even if I eat as much excellent quality cannabis extract as I can, even if I eat it until I start feeling a bit nauseous (yes, cannabis is anti emetic but only if you dont over do it) it still wont be enough to completely take the restlessness away. Combined with the syrian rue it is enough though.
I am waiting to received agmatine. I read it is amazingly useful to tapper opiates.
I had never tried harmalas before.
I put a small amount (20mg) inside my glass pipe bulb, it melted popped, the vapor is not that bad... but it is caustic and i have been having lots of flems and mucus in my lungs since.
The other way i have been consuming it is by putting a small amount, like twice as much as i put in the pipe, like 40 or 50 mg under my tongue. It is caustic and it made me some ulcers, but it is totally worth it.
Smoke it the effect last 20 or 30 minutes. Sublinguali it lasts about 2 hours. During the time it lasts, it gives a great relief from withdrawals, though. It takes away the restlessness, it melts it away. That horrible resless limbs and trunk... the worst torture from kratom withdrawal, goes away while the effect of the peganum harmala (syrian rue) lasts.
Plus, it lifts the mood, counteracting the dark cloud in the mind that kratom withdrawal brings, that depression.
Just before smoking the extract the first time, i was already in withdrawal, cranky, demotivated, antisocial... syrian rue reversed all that.
Without it, I dont think I could have slept at all for the first 2 days. Thanks to the rue, I could sleep 2 naps of 2 hours each every night.
THe cannabis also helped, of course, but I know by I experience that even if I eat as much excellent quality cannabis extract as I can, even if I eat it until I start feeling a bit nauseous (yes, cannabis is anti emetic but only if you dont over do it) it still wont be enough to completely take the restlessness away. Combined with the syrian rue it is enough though.
I am waiting to received agmatine. I read it is amazingly useful to tapper opiates.