Hello all. I am new to this so please bare with me as I hope I have found the correct forum to post this on.
I've had a sever Norco addiction for 4+ years now (400mg-600mg daily). I also take benzo's (Klonopin) which is a legally prescribed medicine. After struggling to get clean from the Norco on my own for the last 2 months, I finally did some research and decided to admit myself into a Methadone Clinic. I'm not using this clinic as a "lifer"...they've put me on a one year plan to be off all medicines. Also, I should mention that I'm taking Subutex and not Methadone. Yesterday was my first day going to the clinic and dosing. When I expressed concern to my counselor about going through WD's once the Subutex wears off before I can dose again (it's my understanding they start you off on a low dose and then you increase until you can make it 24 hours without feeling WD's), she actually suggested that I take Norco to help. Now, I totally fell in love with my counselor from the start yesterday. We instantly bonded and we spent about 5 hours together...I thought she really listened and really put me at ease as I was a total basket case. My questions are, 1. Would I even feel Norco since Subutex blocks your receptors? 2. Won't I get in trouble at the clinic when I drug test again and Norco shows up?
Just to clarify, I'm in no way looking to get high or get a buzz or anything. I am very serious about my recovery. However, my Subutex did wear off fairly quickly yesterday and my WD symptoms were almost unbearable. I ended up taking 4mg of my Klonopin just to try and ease it a little. And, yes, I know the risk of mixing benzo's with the Subutex. However, it didn't help that much. I still didn't get any sleep, had the sweats and chills most of the day and all night, was very tense in all my muscles (especially my jaw as I was grinding my teeth), etc. I really did want to break down and try taking some pain pills to see if they would help. My Subutex dose yesterday was 8mg, today they dosed me at 12mg. I'm not feeling many WD symptoms at the moment besides being kind of clammy and having an upset stomach. Of course, I'm worried that like yesterday, the Subutex will again wear off and my heavy WD symptoms will return. So...do I take my counselors advice and supplement with the Norco?? I mean, she kind of told me this as a "just between you and me" kind of thing, you know...like don't tell the Dr I said this was ok BUT you could help yourself kind of thing. I mean, do the clinics expect that heavy users will supplement their selves during the first week or so to get through WD's until the Subutex dosage is enough?? I'm so confused. Was also wondering how quickly you become dependent on the Subutex? Is it immediate? Not that Im planning to do this, but say I didn't make it tomorrow in time to dose...would my body go into instant shock from missing the Subutex? So many questions!!! Any advice is much appreciated! Thank you. Also, is there any way to make the Subutex stay in your system longer? I read somewhere that taking Benadryl with it or taking Tagament could prolong it...but that could be total nonsense. Again, to clarify, I'm serious about recovery. I'm not trying to get a high or even a buzz. Just trying to keep WD's at bay enough that I can actually function. Thanks all!
I've had a sever Norco addiction for 4+ years now (400mg-600mg daily). I also take benzo's (Klonopin) which is a legally prescribed medicine. After struggling to get clean from the Norco on my own for the last 2 months, I finally did some research and decided to admit myself into a Methadone Clinic. I'm not using this clinic as a "lifer"...they've put me on a one year plan to be off all medicines. Also, I should mention that I'm taking Subutex and not Methadone. Yesterday was my first day going to the clinic and dosing. When I expressed concern to my counselor about going through WD's once the Subutex wears off before I can dose again (it's my understanding they start you off on a low dose and then you increase until you can make it 24 hours without feeling WD's), she actually suggested that I take Norco to help. Now, I totally fell in love with my counselor from the start yesterday. We instantly bonded and we spent about 5 hours together...I thought she really listened and really put me at ease as I was a total basket case. My questions are, 1. Would I even feel Norco since Subutex blocks your receptors? 2. Won't I get in trouble at the clinic when I drug test again and Norco shows up?
Just to clarify, I'm in no way looking to get high or get a buzz or anything. I am very serious about my recovery. However, my Subutex did wear off fairly quickly yesterday and my WD symptoms were almost unbearable. I ended up taking 4mg of my Klonopin just to try and ease it a little. And, yes, I know the risk of mixing benzo's with the Subutex. However, it didn't help that much. I still didn't get any sleep, had the sweats and chills most of the day and all night, was very tense in all my muscles (especially my jaw as I was grinding my teeth), etc. I really did want to break down and try taking some pain pills to see if they would help. My Subutex dose yesterday was 8mg, today they dosed me at 12mg. I'm not feeling many WD symptoms at the moment besides being kind of clammy and having an upset stomach. Of course, I'm worried that like yesterday, the Subutex will again wear off and my heavy WD symptoms will return. So...do I take my counselors advice and supplement with the Norco?? I mean, she kind of told me this as a "just between you and me" kind of thing, you know...like don't tell the Dr I said this was ok BUT you could help yourself kind of thing. I mean, do the clinics expect that heavy users will supplement their selves during the first week or so to get through WD's until the Subutex dosage is enough?? I'm so confused. Was also wondering how quickly you become dependent on the Subutex? Is it immediate? Not that Im planning to do this, but say I didn't make it tomorrow in time to dose...would my body go into instant shock from missing the Subutex? So many questions!!! Any advice is much appreciated! Thank you. Also, is there any way to make the Subutex stay in your system longer? I read somewhere that taking Benadryl with it or taking Tagament could prolong it...but that could be total nonsense. Again, to clarify, I'm serious about recovery. I'm not trying to get a high or even a buzz. Just trying to keep WD's at bay enough that I can actually function. Thanks all!