psychedelicsoul
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Now lets understand something... for all you dualists out there. Descartes lived in a very pre-scientific world and did not conclude that animals have souls. However, he came to his beliefs about dualism and other things when he assumed that he existed. Cogito ergo sum. One cannot doubt ones existence while one doubts.
However, by his own definition and modern science we can assume... That animals do have souls. Because they can think. Therefore, since animals have souls, like we do, if ethics are important when dealing with humans, then they are with animals. But the only way to assume animals do not have souls it to not believe in souls.
Monkey think, therefore monkey am.
Now... is it ethical to imprison something for a minor purpose, that possesses a soul. I'm not a vegan, so I don't believe animals free will should be respected as humans are. However, pain and suffering should be respected. Therefore, when animals live decent lives and are killed painlessly, it is okay. Animals are lesser souls, "anima" as mentioned in many religions. Zoos, if they're big enough... can be ethical too because even though they deprive animals of free will. Some can live okay lives. Most don't... Some zoos are just awful. Most of them don't have good conditions and animals are kept on drugs to keep them from going fucking nuts... zoochosis is real, look it up.
Factory farming is evil... but atleast it's understandable. You get something reasonable out of it... meat... food.
Well... These animals are isolated, abused, used as entertainment, and science has proven that they can go insane, and sometimes even commit suicide. Orcas and dolphins have tried and succeeded in killing themselves. Even though factory farming is bad.. it's evil for an understandable reason
http://www.onegreenplanet.org/animalsandnature/why-whales-and-dolphins-do-not-belong-in-tanks/
Now... if animals are killed for food, then why are they kept in captivity akin to locking someone in solitary confinement forever? So kids can go "Wooooahhh!!!" and "Woooooooow" and "Woooooooo".... there you go.
This animal is trapped in purgatory or hell, and it's so your kid can fucking scream at it in excitement. And no... he's not being "Educated".. what the hell are you going to learn watching psychologically traumatized animals doing tricks in an unnatural environment.
Oh wait.... there's an announcer guy mentioning orcas diet and shit. And little plaques they have fun facts on them.. The same shit you could find in a 5 yr olds science book, but without the animals being put through hell. And is educating kids about orcas so fucking important that cruelty is okay?
All it does is buzz up the child's interests. It's not something vital or important, and it can be taught better from sitting them down and having them read a book...<br>Get your kids a copy of Zoobooks, y'all 90s kids remember that shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8EvnM2XUTI
I know damn well you saw this commercial 100 times as a kids
If they wanna grow up to be marine biologists, they'll do it. But teaching your kids about orcas isn't gonna matter cause when they're 20, they'll probably forget all of it. Unless they actively choose to pursue it.
So in the long run... It's pointless, cruel, and unnessasary. Should it be legal... Well, I don't know. Should it be legal to keep my child locked in a closet all day long when I'm not showing him off to strangers for entertainment, and jerking him off, to artificailly inseminate his sister? Should that be legal?
Should taking a monkey and locking it in a bathtub be legal?
Should dog fighting be legal?
Anyone who supports banning dog fighting is a hypocrite for going to Sea World.
And they jerk off orcas... That's just fucked up.
http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-1296-6-awful-realities-behind-scenes-at-seaworld.htm
They jerk off the orcas dick... that's basically rape
Let's add bestiality to the list of fucked up things about Sea World
However, by his own definition and modern science we can assume... That animals do have souls. Because they can think. Therefore, since animals have souls, like we do, if ethics are important when dealing with humans, then they are with animals. But the only way to assume animals do not have souls it to not believe in souls.
Monkey think, therefore monkey am.
Now... is it ethical to imprison something for a minor purpose, that possesses a soul. I'm not a vegan, so I don't believe animals free will should be respected as humans are. However, pain and suffering should be respected. Therefore, when animals live decent lives and are killed painlessly, it is okay. Animals are lesser souls, "anima" as mentioned in many religions. Zoos, if they're big enough... can be ethical too because even though they deprive animals of free will. Some can live okay lives. Most don't... Some zoos are just awful. Most of them don't have good conditions and animals are kept on drugs to keep them from going fucking nuts... zoochosis is real, look it up.
Factory farming is evil... but atleast it's understandable. You get something reasonable out of it... meat... food.
Well... These animals are isolated, abused, used as entertainment, and science has proven that they can go insane, and sometimes even commit suicide. Orcas and dolphins have tried and succeeded in killing themselves. Even though factory farming is bad.. it's evil for an understandable reason
http://www.onegreenplanet.org/animalsandnature/why-whales-and-dolphins-do-not-belong-in-tanks/
Now... if animals are killed for food, then why are they kept in captivity akin to locking someone in solitary confinement forever? So kids can go "Wooooahhh!!!" and "Woooooooow" and "Woooooooo".... there you go.
This animal is trapped in purgatory or hell, and it's so your kid can fucking scream at it in excitement. And no... he's not being "Educated".. what the hell are you going to learn watching psychologically traumatized animals doing tricks in an unnatural environment.
Oh wait.... there's an announcer guy mentioning orcas diet and shit. And little plaques they have fun facts on them.. The same shit you could find in a 5 yr olds science book, but without the animals being put through hell. And is educating kids about orcas so fucking important that cruelty is okay?
All it does is buzz up the child's interests. It's not something vital or important, and it can be taught better from sitting them down and having them read a book...<br>Get your kids a copy of Zoobooks, y'all 90s kids remember that shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8EvnM2XUTI
I know damn well you saw this commercial 100 times as a kids
If they wanna grow up to be marine biologists, they'll do it. But teaching your kids about orcas isn't gonna matter cause when they're 20, they'll probably forget all of it. Unless they actively choose to pursue it.
So in the long run... It's pointless, cruel, and unnessasary. Should it be legal... Well, I don't know. Should it be legal to keep my child locked in a closet all day long when I'm not showing him off to strangers for entertainment, and jerking him off, to artificailly inseminate his sister? Should that be legal?
Should taking a monkey and locking it in a bathtub be legal?
Should dog fighting be legal?
Anyone who supports banning dog fighting is a hypocrite for going to Sea World.
And they jerk off orcas... That's just fucked up.
http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-1296-6-awful-realities-behind-scenes-at-seaworld.htm
They jerk off the orcas dick... that's basically rape
Let's add bestiality to the list of fucked up things about Sea World