Opioids short acting opiates and brain function

[blackmarket91]

its been proven that long term use of methadone will mess with your natural brain function up to 2 years from what iv been told by an addiction specialist

im curious if short acting opiates like oxycodone pills do the same for instance if someone was off methadone for awhile and took oxy at time if it continues to prolong your brain from recovering i ask due to them being completely different

iv had bad brain fog for the past 5 months of me coming off methadone i relapsed a week ago for 4 days in a row then once more a few days after i can barely function if eel very slow it seems my brain fog has double since putting that back into my body im curious if short acting opiates do the same thing iv never heard of people on average having that issue on oxy for example

 

[fakebuttcheekz]

Using any drug for an extended period of time can cause that to happen...it takes a long time to repair the damage done from using hard drugs

 

[blackmarket91]

Using any drug for an extended period of time can cause that to happen...it takes a long time to repair the damage done from using hard drugs

yes but for me for example i was off methadone for 5 months curious if at times like once week if i did take a few oxys if it would hurt my brain recovery or if just once a week or 2 max isnt enough to do damage

 

[fakebuttcheekz]

yes but for me for example i was off methadone for 5 months curious if at times like once week if i did take a few oxys if it would hurt my brain recovery or if just once a week or 2 max isnt enough to do damage

Let's be honest....if your an addict, and I'm going to assume that you are since you were on methadone, there is no way your going to take Oxy 1-2 times a week. Don't kid yourself. And if you were able to pull that off, no, I don't believe that is going to let your brain heal.

 

[blackmarket91]

Let's be honest....if your an addict, and I'm going to assume that you are since you were on methadone, there is no way your going to take Oxy 1-2 times a week. Don't kid yourself. And if you were able to pull that off, no, I don't believe that is going to let your brain heal.

actually no i was never addicted to opiates tbh i started getting it from family member nd i liked way it make me feel but i didnt take opiates

since iv been clean my roomate is still on methadone it sits right in the fridge in front of my face as we speak i had a moment of weakness eventually feeling i could do it and id b ok and not get physically addicted

and iv taken a few oxy at times and had plenty left over id only do them once week like 40 mg i just wana know if thats going to completely kill my brain from improving so your saying no its prob gonna keep me stagnant so ok i wont touch them again

 

[Ganjcat]

Which one of these are the shortest acting: codeine or heroin

 

[blackmarket91]

Which one of these are the shortest acting: codeine or heroin

never done heroin was talking about oxycodone pills

 

[ChemicallyEnhanced]

Yep. I used to be very intelligent, quick, witty. Now I'm a slow-as-hell dud. Seriously, my IQ is 136 and people assume it's more like 90. It might just be being on opioids and sedatives all the time. But my short-and-intermediate term memories are non-existent. I have appalling word-recall, too. And a tendency to speak in non-sequiturs at times.

 

[ChemicallyEnhanced]

Which one of these are the shortest acting: codeine or heroin

Both orally the same. Oral codeine lasts almost twice as long as IV heroin.

 

[blackmarket91]

Yep. I used to be very intelligent, quick, witty. Now I'm a slow-as-hell dud. Seriously, my IQ is 136 and people assume it's more like 90. It might just be being on opioids and sedatives all the time. But my short-and-intermediate term memories are non-existent. I have appalling word-recall, too. And a tendency to speak in non-sequiturs at times.

i still have a great memory except at times i got super high i can remember dates ect well but my god.. certain parts of my brain im like retarded its embarrassing and im luckly atm im living off savings currently from my old job and not completely having to take care of bills housing all myself id not be able to do it right now

 

[supersonic89]

I wonder what damage I have caused myself with my almost daily consumption of tramadol or tapentadol in high doses (1000-2000 mg of tramadol) for two years. My memory does not seem so fuzzy, since I still remember many things from those days but I do feel "slow" to understand what I read, although that may just be the withdrawal right now. After all, tramadol is a weak opioid but at those doses it seems to be dangerous perhaps to the brain. Serotonin may never recover and I will be constantly suffering from depression.

 

[Ganjcat]

never done heroin was talking about oxycodone pills

I know bro I was just wondering on the spot like and btw whoever said tramadol I have done tramadol, over a period of time and it was the most unhealthiest opiate I've ever experience both physically mentally and places I didn't know I had I have never experienced anything like it but I am convinced my tramadol useage resulted in a mini stroke I haven't touched the stuff since and plan never to again anything that can make you feel like that even if I did go over the top dosewise its crazy I can't believe they actually give people that shit the only thing that comes close to it in terms of risks is lopermide

 

[supersonic89]

I have done tramadol, over a period of time and it was the most unhealthiest opiate I've ever experience both physically mentally and places I didn't know I had I have never experienced anything like it but I am convinced my tramadol useage resulted in a mini stroke I haven't touched the stuff since and plan never to again anything that can make you feel like that even if I did go over the top dosewise its crazy I can't believe they actually give people that shit the only thing that comes close to it in terms of risks is lopermide

Wow. That sounds terrible.

I believe that the abuse of tramadol in large doses will screw up your neurotransmitters like serotonin and norepinephrine. Very dangerous drug to quit cold turkey. When I do, I am depressed like never before and constantly contemplating suicide.

 

[DeathIndustrial88]

Opiates mostly change the brain as far as the reward circuits (which is technically brain damage), but I don't think it's anything like the brain damage resulting from long term alcohol or amphetamine abuse. As in, it shouldn't really effect intelligence and cognition (except maybe acutely while high). Your addiction specialist probably was referring to the fact that your reward circuits in your brain have been re-wired to rely on opiates to function normally. This is what makes addiction so hard, because you can feel "off" for up to 2 years (some times longer) after ceasing drug use.

Now drugs like alcohol and benzo abuse can really put a dent in your intelligence, memory recall, judgement & decision making, etc.. I've lived among many alcohol & benzo addicts and they were some of the dumbest people I have ever met. Couldn't even remember a prior conversation I'd have with them just a few days before.

I wouldn't worry about intelligence or memory and stuff like that so much from opiates.
I use to inhale dust remover and mix drugs like DXM with Methamphetamine & vodka. Also been an opioid addict for over a decade. Highly dumb & dangerous choices, yet I still consider myself an intelligent person. Some times I even find myself getting irritated with those around me, feeling like they are dumber than I am. lol And some truly are.

 

[DeathIndustrial88]

Wow. That sounds terrible.

I believe that the abuse of tramadol in large doses will screw up your neurotransmitters like serotonin and norepinephrine. Very dangerous drug to quit cold turkey. When I do, I am depressed like never before and constantly contemplating suicide.

Man, I completely feel you here. I use to get so suicidal without trams, I am almost surprised I actually never went through with it. The rebound depression after ceasing tramadol use is some of the darkest shit I've ever felt. I wouldn't wish it upon my worst enemy (well maybe actually I would lol). It is literally torture.

 

[blackmarket91]

Man, I completely feel you here. I use to get so suicidal without trams, I am almost surprised I actually never went through with it. The rebound depression after ceasing tramadol use is some of the darkest shit I've ever felt. I wouldn't wish it upon my worst enemy (well maybe actually I would lol). It is literally torture.

i did tramadol a few times i had a seizure once took like 18 at a time like a decade ago was very dumb of me

 

[DeathIndustrial88]

i did tramadol a few times i had a seizure once took like 18 at a time like a decade ago was very dumb of me

Yeah tramadol is one of the only opioids I know of that will have that effect if you go overboard with it. Especially if you have an underlining seizure disorder or a naturally low seizure threshold to begin with. Hopefully there were no long term implications from that incident.

 

[blackmarket91]

Yeah tramadol is one of the only opioids I know of that will have that effect if you go overboard with it. Especially if you have an underlining seizure disorder or a naturally low seizure threshold to begin with. Hopefully there were no long term implications from that incident.

well this was first time iv had a seizure lol that i know of

i was prescribed them and was n dumb phase took 4 felt weird took more and more was told u had take bunch then woke up n ambulance lol

then year later friend bought some online from india lol they were busted so took some more nothing but i had another seizure lmao so said ill never touch that shit again hopefully didnt do anything bad to me this was 2013 2014

 

[fakebuttcheekz]

actually no i was never addicted to opiates tbh i started getting it from family member nd i liked way it make me feel but i didnt take opiates

since iv been clean my roomate is still on methadone it sits right in the fridge in front of my face as we speak i had a moment of weakness eventually feeling i could do it and id b ok and not get physically addicted

and iv taken a few oxy at times and had plenty left over id only do them once week like 40 mg i just wana know if thats going to completely kill my brain from improving so your saying no its prob gonna keep me stagnant so ok i wont touch them again

Opiate-Opioid...Tomato-Tamato...if you don't wanna be addicted, your best bet is to just stay away from all of it, it's way too easy to fall into that trap. Good luck bro

 

[DeathIndustrial88]

well this was first time iv had a seizure lol that i know of

i was prescribed them and was n dumb phase took 4 felt weird took more and more was told u had take bunch then woke up n ambulance lol

then year later friend bought some online from india lol they were busted so took some more nothing but i had another seizure lmao so said ill never touch that shit again hopefully didnt do anything bad to me this was 2013 2014

You would only have any long term damage if you had been unconscious and lacking oxygen during those seizures I believe. So I'm sure you are fine.

Like the guy above me said though, if you're worried about long term effects of drugs, your best bet is to just stay away from it if you can. It's really easy to fall into the opioid trap. Tramadol & hydrocodones were my first loves as a teen. I knew nothing about drugs and withdrawal at the time. I just knew that they made me feel good and gave me exceptional abilities to work my ass off at my job and feel none of the aches and pains from the physical labor. Until one day I felt very sick and like I was dying and couldn't understand why. It only then occurred to me that the only thing that had changed was that I ran out of tramadol. This was 13+ years ago now and here I am all these years later, still addicted to opioids, including heroin for a number of years. Although I enjoy them and the stability they give me and my mental health, so I try not to complain & as long as I have access to them, I can function and live a normal life like everyone else.
I'll take opioid dependence over a life of suicidal and painful hell any day.

You won't "kill your brain" doing opiates here or there per say, but every time you do them, you are letting yourself possibly get hooked. I hated opiates when I first tried them too. Made me nauseated, didn't get any euphoria the first few times. Couldn't understand what people saw in them. And look where I'm at now. Anything can happen. I think opioids are one of those drugs where you have to do them a few times and gain a tolerance to eliminate the shitty side effects and then you'll feel nothing but bliss and that's how you get trapped, hooked, addicted, etc.. Stay safe man and if you are young & don't want to live the life of a junkie or an addict, I'd use all the willpower you have not to return to that life. Good luck friend & enjoy life how you feel is best for you.