Road trip for quality H

[Welderman]

yeah that not bad. I mean I'd be looking at a day trip, head out early AM, spend the day working, and once it was done head home. Travel 6-8 hours. round trip. Not that bad if you are getting a much better deal and you only do it every 3-4 weeks or so. The main issue I look at is finding a person and risking getting robbed for the necessary money I would be putting up to make the trip worthwhile. My habits not that crazy, 8-10 Gs of legit fire would last me a solid month.

Rtrain let us know how this road trip works out for you.

 

[RTrain]

^^I will, if it happens. Right now I am actually taking a break & using suboxone, would be a nice thought to stay on it, ween off and maybe stay clean. But I constantly think of getting stuff, and still am constantly putting thought into this trip. I think what it comes down to is if I have success, I will most certainly go off the subs because $ won't be as much of an issue. Because that is the only reason I got back on subs in the first place, otherwise I'd be on H right now. Probably a good idea to try this while on subs rather than in a dope habit, because I won't have to worry about scoring quick to maintain or bringing stuff with me in case I fail to score and get sick. Plus if I get beat for a bit of cash I won't be completely screwed.

 

[Welderman]

You probably would want to build a customer relationship with someone before you started buying large quantities.

 

[Effect]

I see were you are coming from. Honestly it makes complete sense now that you put it that way. Its kind of like trying to go to Lynn, MA rather than Boston for the same reason. Lynn is a city maybe 10 miles north of Boston, its not nice area. Probably nicer than Paterson, but Boston is nicer than Newark, too. So you see what I mean. '

Thanks for the input, BTW

lynn isnt that bad man. its where i get most of my dope from. its just that you cant go there and cold cop. its all phone connects around here. dial up your dude and he will tell you if it's straight to come through or not and what street to meet the runner on.

 

[gwencooper]

Oh, I thought you meant a "road trip", road trip. I met a guy over the summer (a friend of a dopehead friend) who was an artist from NYC about 25 years old - he rented a car and drove all over the country, sightseeing, picking up chicks and doing dope. ALOT OF DOPE. He was going to college or he just graduated from college or something but this was like his reward - his "gap year to europe" sort of thing. From what I could fathom he had very very deep pockets (Chinks is poor compared to this guy), stayed in Motel sixes and made it like a game to try to cop in every city. He'd buy 3 jabs at a time.

After he left Chicago, he texted me a couple of times from the road. He picked up a girl in Kentucky for a long weekend - they went to Detroit where the dope was great and he had her back in KY by Monday morning for work. He ended up continuing the road trip through September he was having such a great time. He sent me some messages that he wanted to come back through Chicago because he liked our dope but never did.

Me, I've travelled the United States for rock concerts/shows/bands and lived out west for a while as an actor (don't ask and NOT PORN) so I have a general idea where to get it in a few major cities. And friends who have connections.

But what you guys are talking about above, I'd say yeah - if I heard of an awesome dope spot in Rockford or DeKalb, IL I'd go there and check it out. Especially if I had an introduction/connect to "The Man". That's just as close as Chicago for me, as currently I'm out in the burbs.

Funny: Did you guys know that the general area where I lived in Chicago for nearly 15 years or so (different apartments, same general vicinity), is BLOCKS from the WS open air? I never knew until I moved out here and blew off my main dealer because she was unreliable and expensive. So much easier to go grab some on a street corner. When I move back down into the city this fall, I'm excited to move back into the neighborhood. Or maybe I shouldn't. It'd be too easy. What if I decided to quit? What if the d-boys found out where I lived because I needed a delivery? Eeek. Gross.
Gwen

 

[RTrain]

Believe me I know Lynn very well. Lets just say the job I do prevents me from being able to cop in Lynn. Or it would not be very wise for me to be trolling about the streets looking for drug dealers, searching around in the Commons, Union Square or over at the shelter on Washington St trying to find a phone connection. Also I am fairly confident the stuff my guy gets is on the level with anything in Lynn(but I could probably find a cheaper source since I get a few Gs to my face when I score, not just a few bags, basically what I'd achieve if I could cut my guy out as the middleman and eliminate the profit he makes off me, which he makes almost impossible). But neither are going to compare to fire from NJ inner city, at least that my hypothesis and basis for what I am considering.

And what I was trying to do is use an analogy sort of thing, like Boston is to Newark as Lynn is to Paterson. Like Boston is no where near as bad an area all around as Newark, it has much more upscale areas and the bad areas are not as bad. Same thing with Lynn compared to Paterson. Many parts of Lynn a fine areas, particulary anything west of Wyoma along and off of Lynnfield St. And I do believe they have done a very good job reducing the gang activity in Lynn. But I can tell you that between 4/1 and 5/16 there were 6 shootings in Lynn, along with a good amount of stabbing and traumatic batteries. They did film an episode of Cops in Lynn in the early 90s(I think it was early 90s) and the cops did shoot a knife wielding lunatic in that episode along the marsh road in Saugus (he was originally in Lynn and crossed into Saugus).

 

[Effect]

wow haha i guess you really do know lynn well. let's just say i live within an easy walking distance to lynn so I know everywhere you mentioned. Also I've been going to lynn nearly daily to score for the past few years up until a couple months ago when my dude decided he would start to deliver to me. i still do make the trip occasionally if i don't have time to wait at my house so I'll just go to wherever the runners at.

i wasn't trying to be a dick or challenge you, so i hope you didn't take it that way. I was just saying that I always hear people make it sound like you can't even walk around there without something happening to you.

As far as quality goes, yeah, I'm sure the shit around here doesn't compare to jersey fire (believe me, I've thought about making the trip to score open air too), but I've tried A LOT of shit from around the greater boston area and this dude has consistently had the best shit by far out of any other dope I've tried and I firmly believe it's a lot purer than the 30% you were mentioning cause believe me; I've tried a lot of piss poor dope and the shit I've been getting is exponentially better. Please don't think I'm trying to indirectly bash your connect/dope cause for all I know we could be getting the same quality shit and it's just not cutting it for you.

i was actually in lynn taking my last court ordered piss test on union st when one of the shootings happened literally right outside the building. this was in back in april and i just remember sitting in the waiting room and all of a sudden this kid comes in and was like "holy shit man, there's cops all over the place out there.. someone just got shot at". At the time it didnt really phase me cause i just wanted to get my piss test done so i could go score a few streets over.

And funny you mention that episode of cops cause i read about it on the Lynn wikipedia page and have wanted to see it ever since. It's nice to know someone from here has been to the same areas I have. Shoot me a PM sometime man. It would be nice to share some war stories haha.

sorry I made that so long, but I get excited when people know the areas I've copped in. Not sure why, but to be on topic, I would love to try stamps from NJ/Philly/NYC (hell even CT even though i've heard a lot of negatives about it) or the 'raw' from Baltimore just to compare it and say i've tried it.

 

[Khadijah]

And what I was trying to do is use an analogy sort of thing, like Boston is to Newark as Lynn is to Paterson. Like Boston is no where near as bad an area all around as Newark, it has much more upscale areas and the bad areas are not as bad. Same thing with Lynn compared to Paterson.

I aint exactly sure what youre sayin here with that analogy, newark has more nicer parts in it than paterson does. Paterson is a smaller city but the entire thing is just hood from one end to the other. newark actually has nice areas and places people who aint from there wouldnt be afraid of going to.

Like, put it to you like this, people from surrounding nice suburbs--and I dont even mean regular workin class people, but the rich snobby people who dress up for dinner and shit--they might talk about newark and be like "lets go into the ironbound and get some portuguese for dinner tonight!" and it wouldnt be considered some kind of like 'OMG, youre going to newark for dinner!?!" but nobody from the nice towns outside paterson says "lets go to paterson for dinner tonight" you get me? P town is smaller in area and by numbers when it comes to murders, etc, just out of sheer smaller population, but there aint no polish, you feel me? other than that tiny little strip by route 4/the edge of route 20 there aint nothin but hood--different levels of course, you got just kinda poor blue collar immigrant hood and then straight up ghetto as fuck (4th ward and northside baby) but either way, it aint the type of place that your average stuck up suburban rich people would think of as "nice" altho to someone like me I think there are def. nice areas of paterson but my standard of nice is a lot different than the standard of the type a folks I just described ya feel me. Anyways tho.

Kinda off the topic but I aint sure if you got your ideas about paterson/nwk exactly right, but I didnt really get what you were sayin. Since I dont know lynn vs boston I cant say. Didnt know if you were tryin to say paterson was the smaller nicer city or what. like is boston considered the nicer city or is lynn? since I aint familiar I cant say if youre on point or not with your comparison.

and this aint a comparison of 'whose more hood' we can do paterson vs nwk all day that aint what its about. Im just sayin that Newark is 'real' city that has attractions and nice areas and paterson pretty much just what people in jersey consider a grimey dope hole. (And I dont see it like that at all and honestly I get pissed when people talk about it like that but just for the sake of your analogy tho.) Llike if you compared "percentage of the city that is considered a reasonably nice neighborhood" in the brix vs paterson, youd find more nicer areas in nwk, imo. but Im sorry for goin off on a ramble there.

 

[Effect]

^I've always enjoyed reading your posts about Paterson. It's always nice to see people 'passionate' about places they frequent. To clear up your confusion though, a lot of people around here consider Lynn to be the 'dopehole' that you say Paterson has the reputation of being even without the open air market. I believe he was comparing Paterson to Lynn basically saying Lynn is to Paterson as Boston is to Newark even though Boston itself isn't exactly where you'd go to score. It's the whole Greater Boston area AKA all Boston's surrounding cities and towns that have their own phone connect dope scenes with some particular cities being more notorious for having a lot of quality dope.

Based on posts that I've read from you, it sounds like Paterson is not the place to go if your trying to cop open air if you have never done it before or aren't from the area and that Newark would be a better place to try. I definitely think I wouldn't stand out and I'm not stupid when it comes to the game, but not knowing how the local scene works first hand is what I believe would potentially make the process a hassle at first despite me having read posts like "If you can't cop in Paterson/Newark then you must be blind or stupid".

 

[RTrain]

Yes that is more of a reputation analogy than actuality. Especially since I have never been to Paterson and only driven through Newark, so I have no basis for comparing them to Lynn & Boston, MA. Like Effect said, Lynn is thought of as a really trashy city. While we know Boston is has its nice areas and its tough areas (for instance West Roxbury is a beautiful area and Roxbury is a dump). But Lynn does have a lot of nice areas, but those are just residential areas, there is no businesses or places of interest in those areas. So the more "urban" part of Lynn is what most people think of and judge it by. But it has a nice "suburban" area that I know a good amount of people my age who grew up around there and were just standard white catholic families like most from the area.

Oh and I'm not calling you out or anything for thinking I don't know Lynn. There is really no way you could have known my connection to any towns in the area. But aside from the city I was born and raised in, Lynn comes in second in terms of how well I know the area. It wasn't necessarily that way until recently when I started by current job.

 

[Khadijah]

^I've always enjoyed reading your posts about Paterson. It's always nice to see people 'passionate' about places they frequent. To clear up your confusion though, a lot of people around here consider Lynn to be the 'dopehole' that you say Paterson has the reputation of being even without the open air market. I believe he was comparing Paterson to Lynn basically saying Lynn is to Paterson as Boston is to Newark even though Boston itself isn't exactly where you'd go to score. It's the whole Greater Boston area AKA all Boston's surrounding cities and towns that have their own phone connect dope scenes with some particular cities being more notorious for having a lot of quality dope.

Based on posts that I've read from you, it sounds like Paterson is not the place to go if your trying to cop open air if you have never done it before or aren't from the area and that Newark would be a better place to try. I definitely think I wouldn't stand out and I'm not stupid when it comes to the game, but not knowing how the local scene works first hand is what I believe would potentially make the process a hassle at first despite me having read posts like "If you can't cop in Paterson/Newark then you must be blind or stupid".

oh dude i second the fact that if you cant cop in either city you are blind or stupid. yes thats true--as far as availability how easy it is to find it, etc. Im STRICLY talking about the cops and the level of heat when i say to look out and avoid paterson til you kinda know the ropes.

for example tonight I was drivin home from my grandmas house which is right off rt 20...I got pulled over by a UC car as I hopped on 208 and he immediately asks have i ever been arrested for dope...supposedly stopped me for my cracked windshield however its a TINY ASS crack and impossible to see in the dark unless youre standing by my windshield, there aint no way the guy could have seen it as i quickly drove past in the dark. I talked to him told him the address i came from, whatever, he checked my papers and was like ok, cool, take care of that crack and not even a ticket, i wasnt doin nothing wrong but was coming from the direction of paterson. it was funny cuz i saw him sittin there on the road that people will take on their way back from paterson and was like ha theyre lookin for kids coming back over the bridge after they cop...then i noticed he had pulled out behind me as i was gettin onto the highway and i said...I bet he thought i just copped. Hes gonna light me up as soon as i get onto the highway (which is always their standard MO) and sure enough thats just how it went down. I was no stress and he could see that so it was all good...but if somebody like me, who aint even copping and was just on their way home from visiting and helpinng their elderly gram dukes with house work, bein a total girl scout, can get stopped for supposedly being suspicious and appearing to have copped dope, that should tell you somethin. They was beastin tonight outside paterson actually, but Ima go post that in the paterson thread I guess, kind of off topic.


far as being passionate about p town or whatever....dont get me wrong this aint about dope...i got family there, used to spend all my time there, lived there for a little while, that was my hood you feel me? lots of good people there, lots of great places to chill and eat at and i get pissed when i hear people talk shit like its just a disgusting slimehole and all the shit people say. especially comin from the junkies who will go there to cop there dope but never set foot in the city except to cop and then talk trash about it and the people there, shit never fails to get me heated...I got mad love for paterson as a city not as a place to get my drugs from you feel me, i got business with paterson that aint got a damn thing to do with gettin high so I get like offended or whatever when people act like dope and crack is all there is to it, thats all I guess...