i have SO much to say about this topic, both through my own experience, and also from other friends experience, going back to 1992..
but, i will wait until later.
For now i will just weigh in on what has already been said, based on my own experience.
ihad not heard about anyone else's experience throughout the times i went through my own.
i am amazed to hear, pretty consistently, how similar everyone else's is to my own.
especially on 2 main points...
i had , on one ocassion, taken the buph way too early, because i was not told about that aspect.
just like many other people,,,, i'm guessing....i was SO excited to go on with my decision to make this major, life saving, change in my life, that i just wanted to jump into it as soon as i could.
in my enthusiasm, and without knowing about how it all works, i took my first dose of buph almost immediatly....like within 6 hours.
It was HELL...and, to make matters worse, i had never been through any form of opiate withdrawel before this..
although it was absolutely horrible, i must say, on the brightside, it only lasted about 9 hours, and then it was 99% over.
but, since i had never been through any withdrawels prior to this, i have nothing to compare it to.
i only had 2 experiences of doing this, i got it right on the second try....
the second time around, since i was mortified, i waited about 36 hours, at which point i really was not feeling any withdrawel, but, i took it anyway.
WOW, it was f****g amazing... i was SO clear, and in a sort of state of bliss...i guess this was REALLY what the term "euphoria" means.
on this time around, it did everything it was supposed to.
i had ZERO withdrawel, NOTHING.
it also took away all mental craving for opiates...and i was on a 400-500mg per day oxy habit...and, thats crushed oxy.
i took Buprenex, the injectible bersion of buph...which, by the way, is not approved for opiate addiction, so you do not need a special dr. with all of the suboxone red-tape...any dr. can prescribe it under the same rules as any schedule 3 drug..
it is applroved for pain... it is exactly the same buph...and IM injection (when it is the correct, sanctioned way) is 7 times more efficient than sublingual.
anyway, that was 9 months ago, and as a sort of insurance policy, i continued to take the buph, and still do.
i have never even thought about opiates ever since, and on some subtle level, just knowing that i cannot take opiates, because they wouldnt do a thing, that also was helpful.
but, a very important part of this is TIME.... just creating a long, long period of time, where you lose the ritualistic habit of doing opiates.
at this point, i cannot even believe i ever did opiates....and, as a reward for all of this... i just got something i was not even thinking about during the whole opiate phase of my life..... LOVE...
falling in love with an awesome woman