RC-Lover123
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Hi everyone, I am posting this because I really think that this detox method could help quite a few people overcome massive opiate withdrawal.
background on me: I am 41 years old, a trained biomedical scientist, I have lovely kids, a highly paid job and a successful medical doctor as a wife. In spite of these really good circumstances, I am a full blown addict, usually quite a functional one, though. Used to be hopelessly polytox (benzos, alcohol, amphetamines, research chemicals), which was episodically disastrous and highly dangerous. Thankfully that has slowly changed and I became addicted to opioids and opiates, which has erased the craving for other drugs pretty much completely. Opiate addiction started roughly ten years ago with legally available codeine and DHC from cough syrup, usually combined with some red wine. I was able to manage and control codeine and DHC for a year or two, but when poppy pods and AH7921 (research opioid) entered the scene, I became a full blown addict. I always managed to terminate abuse before becoming deeply physically addicted so that withdrawals were always bad but manageable without any help or substance, pretty much like a flu for a few days. In 2016 I discovered Kratom, which is dirt cheap and completely legal in my country. Got hopelessly addicted to Kratom, used 30-40g per day for three years until it stopped working and only annoyed me. I stopped Kratom in 2020, the withdrawals were pretty much nothing, just annoying, like a flu for a week and some insomnia and minor PAWS for a month or so. I was clean for a year, just drank some beer and wine in the evenings.
In June 2021 I found a nice little poppy field in a local park (no idea who planted them...) and harvested a lot of fresh and strong pods. Got beautifully high on those buggers for a month or so until they were gone. But it had to go on, it was way too good to stop. I then found a reliable and cheap supplier for kilogram amounts of organic dried poppy pods in another European country. To my delight, these turned out to extremely fucking potent, the best poppy material I ever had. I usually need 20g of dried pods for a solid high (without tolerance). With these pods, 10g gave me a solid high for at least 24 hours even with significant tolerance from the fresh pods. The morphine content must have been very high, around 1% or more, given that 10g got me solidly high for more than a day in spite of my tolerance. Making disgusting tea quickly annoyed me so I simply started to wash down very finely ground poppy pod powder with water or coffee every morning on an empty stomach. Worked much better and longer than tea, extended release opium, basically. The sun was shining out of my ass for half a year, great energy, euphoria, socially enhanced, awesome sleep, blissfully opiated on lovely morphine 24/7. Obviously and inevitably, I had to increase the dose and ended up ingesting up to 50g of this very strong poppy powder every single morning. After a full year, the magic was gone, the effect was dulled, boring and side effects became impossible to ignore. I developed myoclonic jerks (involuntary jerks of my shoulder and arms), at first subtle ones but they got worse. My wife said she only ever saw myoclonus in terminally opiated cancer patients on massive opiate doses, which tells you a lot about the amounts of morphine I was ingesting daily. She urged me to stop the poppy pod powder and I knew she was right. I knew the time had come to stop this shit and to do it now. Tapering opioids is death by a thousand cuts for me, can't do that.
The epic withdrawal: I decided to stop cold turkey, at least initially, without anything. I was always curious what full blown opiate withdrawal would feel like and I knew it was about to happen this time. I prepared, though, bought 200 tablets of loperamide and purchased 30 tablets of 200mg Tramadol as a backup option (600-800mg per day kept me more or less functional, I had previously tested that for a few days), just in case things would get too nasty. I also knew for sure that the poppies in our local park were there again, in full bloom and available for picking in case things went south. I arranged for the kids to be with their grandparents for two weeks, hundreds of miles away. Perfect time for this shit. Day one without poppy powder was bad but still manageable. On day two, all hell broke loose. I collapsed, literally, unable to get up for more than a few seconds. Writhing around on the bed or on the floor moaning in pain and agony. Skin on fire, massive pain in legs and lower back, inability to lie still for even a few seconds. Restless legs is the wrong word, it was restless whole body. Psychotic thought trains of distant memories, bombs, war and destruction racing through my tortured brain, heart beating like crazy. The writhing, moaning and rolling around was only interrupted by having to crawl to the toilet to violently puke, retch and shit. After three long long days and nights of this horrific torture like condition I was getting concerned that I might actually die due to severe dehydration or mineral depletion as everything just sprayed out of my mouth and ass. I had to change strategy.
Loperamide, the miracle drug: On day 3 or 4 (don't remember exactly, it is all blurred) of this nightmarish horror, I took 15 loperamide tablets (30mg) with a tiny amount of water and used all willpower I had left to keep it in my stomach. After 2h, I could feel the extreme withdrawal melt away. My body relaxed, the nausea disappeared, restless legs and burning skin got much much better. I was able to get up, drink, eat a banana and some bread. The 30mg of loperamide turned hell on earth into a shitty but bearable, semi functional condition. I was even able to go shopping to buy food and some hard booze to please my tortured and sleepless brain. I then tapered the loperamide by one tablet per day, starting from 15 down to 1 tablet. I had no problems with this tapering as the lope at these dosages does nothing whatsoever for your brain/mind, it just keeps your body working. There was no urge to take more, I could taper the lope unemotionally. Some withdrawal symptoms (aching legs, general weakness and lethargy/fatigue, burning skin) kept popping up again when I dropped to below 5 tablets but much reduced and manageable. The loperamide did not help with the insomnia, anhedonia, dysphoria at all and I could not detect any centrally acting effect, it just rescued my body from withdrawal hell. It is now day 23 since stopping the poppy powder and I don't take anything any more. Diarrhea is present but not that bad. The loperamide is really a game changer, at least for me. It uncouples the mental withdrawal from the nasty peripheral withdrawal, gives your brain time to heal while keeping the body in good condition. Just don't take too much, 20-30mg should suffice, you don't want to suppress withdrawal completely, just take away 50-70% of the physical symptoms. Also, it can apparently act centrally when taken at super high dosage, you can get hooked if you are stupid. It was also shown to cause long QT syndrome at very high dosages, a potentially fatal heart problem, please avoid that. Start tapering immediately, one tablet less every day. I suspect that it does prolong withdrawal somewhat, but I am not sure about this. I have thrown away the Tramadol, I went to the park and looked at the poppy plants but felt nothing but disgust. No craving at all. For now, I am done with morphine and will have to live without much sleep. I can work, take care of the kids and household (my wife is a workaholic, always at the hospital) , it is fucking hard but I can force myself to do it and be a good dad. PAWS will probably suck but I know that I will be fine eventually.
I hope that this might help someone, the loperamide really made a massive difference. The only downside is that it made withdrawal a bit too easy for me, which may lead to relapse as I now know that I can avoid the absolute hell of morphine withdrawal. If I ever have to do it again, I will immediately take the loperamide and begin the taper.
background on me: I am 41 years old, a trained biomedical scientist, I have lovely kids, a highly paid job and a successful medical doctor as a wife. In spite of these really good circumstances, I am a full blown addict, usually quite a functional one, though. Used to be hopelessly polytox (benzos, alcohol, amphetamines, research chemicals), which was episodically disastrous and highly dangerous. Thankfully that has slowly changed and I became addicted to opioids and opiates, which has erased the craving for other drugs pretty much completely. Opiate addiction started roughly ten years ago with legally available codeine and DHC from cough syrup, usually combined with some red wine. I was able to manage and control codeine and DHC for a year or two, but when poppy pods and AH7921 (research opioid) entered the scene, I became a full blown addict. I always managed to terminate abuse before becoming deeply physically addicted so that withdrawals were always bad but manageable without any help or substance, pretty much like a flu for a few days. In 2016 I discovered Kratom, which is dirt cheap and completely legal in my country. Got hopelessly addicted to Kratom, used 30-40g per day for three years until it stopped working and only annoyed me. I stopped Kratom in 2020, the withdrawals were pretty much nothing, just annoying, like a flu for a week and some insomnia and minor PAWS for a month or so. I was clean for a year, just drank some beer and wine in the evenings.
In June 2021 I found a nice little poppy field in a local park (no idea who planted them...) and harvested a lot of fresh and strong pods. Got beautifully high on those buggers for a month or so until they were gone. But it had to go on, it was way too good to stop. I then found a reliable and cheap supplier for kilogram amounts of organic dried poppy pods in another European country. To my delight, these turned out to extremely fucking potent, the best poppy material I ever had. I usually need 20g of dried pods for a solid high (without tolerance). With these pods, 10g gave me a solid high for at least 24 hours even with significant tolerance from the fresh pods. The morphine content must have been very high, around 1% or more, given that 10g got me solidly high for more than a day in spite of my tolerance. Making disgusting tea quickly annoyed me so I simply started to wash down very finely ground poppy pod powder with water or coffee every morning on an empty stomach. Worked much better and longer than tea, extended release opium, basically. The sun was shining out of my ass for half a year, great energy, euphoria, socially enhanced, awesome sleep, blissfully opiated on lovely morphine 24/7. Obviously and inevitably, I had to increase the dose and ended up ingesting up to 50g of this very strong poppy powder every single morning. After a full year, the magic was gone, the effect was dulled, boring and side effects became impossible to ignore. I developed myoclonic jerks (involuntary jerks of my shoulder and arms), at first subtle ones but they got worse. My wife said she only ever saw myoclonus in terminally opiated cancer patients on massive opiate doses, which tells you a lot about the amounts of morphine I was ingesting daily. She urged me to stop the poppy pod powder and I knew she was right. I knew the time had come to stop this shit and to do it now. Tapering opioids is death by a thousand cuts for me, can't do that.
The epic withdrawal: I decided to stop cold turkey, at least initially, without anything. I was always curious what full blown opiate withdrawal would feel like and I knew it was about to happen this time. I prepared, though, bought 200 tablets of loperamide and purchased 30 tablets of 200mg Tramadol as a backup option (600-800mg per day kept me more or less functional, I had previously tested that for a few days), just in case things would get too nasty. I also knew for sure that the poppies in our local park were there again, in full bloom and available for picking in case things went south. I arranged for the kids to be with their grandparents for two weeks, hundreds of miles away. Perfect time for this shit. Day one without poppy powder was bad but still manageable. On day two, all hell broke loose. I collapsed, literally, unable to get up for more than a few seconds. Writhing around on the bed or on the floor moaning in pain and agony. Skin on fire, massive pain in legs and lower back, inability to lie still for even a few seconds. Restless legs is the wrong word, it was restless whole body. Psychotic thought trains of distant memories, bombs, war and destruction racing through my tortured brain, heart beating like crazy. The writhing, moaning and rolling around was only interrupted by having to crawl to the toilet to violently puke, retch and shit. After three long long days and nights of this horrific torture like condition I was getting concerned that I might actually die due to severe dehydration or mineral depletion as everything just sprayed out of my mouth and ass. I had to change strategy.
Loperamide, the miracle drug: On day 3 or 4 (don't remember exactly, it is all blurred) of this nightmarish horror, I took 15 loperamide tablets (30mg) with a tiny amount of water and used all willpower I had left to keep it in my stomach. After 2h, I could feel the extreme withdrawal melt away. My body relaxed, the nausea disappeared, restless legs and burning skin got much much better. I was able to get up, drink, eat a banana and some bread. The 30mg of loperamide turned hell on earth into a shitty but bearable, semi functional condition. I was even able to go shopping to buy food and some hard booze to please my tortured and sleepless brain. I then tapered the loperamide by one tablet per day, starting from 15 down to 1 tablet. I had no problems with this tapering as the lope at these dosages does nothing whatsoever for your brain/mind, it just keeps your body working. There was no urge to take more, I could taper the lope unemotionally. Some withdrawal symptoms (aching legs, general weakness and lethargy/fatigue, burning skin) kept popping up again when I dropped to below 5 tablets but much reduced and manageable. The loperamide did not help with the insomnia, anhedonia, dysphoria at all and I could not detect any centrally acting effect, it just rescued my body from withdrawal hell. It is now day 23 since stopping the poppy powder and I don't take anything any more. Diarrhea is present but not that bad. The loperamide is really a game changer, at least for me. It uncouples the mental withdrawal from the nasty peripheral withdrawal, gives your brain time to heal while keeping the body in good condition. Just don't take too much, 20-30mg should suffice, you don't want to suppress withdrawal completely, just take away 50-70% of the physical symptoms. Also, it can apparently act centrally when taken at super high dosage, you can get hooked if you are stupid. It was also shown to cause long QT syndrome at very high dosages, a potentially fatal heart problem, please avoid that. Start tapering immediately, one tablet less every day. I suspect that it does prolong withdrawal somewhat, but I am not sure about this. I have thrown away the Tramadol, I went to the park and looked at the poppy plants but felt nothing but disgust. No craving at all. For now, I am done with morphine and will have to live without much sleep. I can work, take care of the kids and household (my wife is a workaholic, always at the hospital) , it is fucking hard but I can force myself to do it and be a good dad. PAWS will probably suck but I know that I will be fine eventually.
I hope that this might help someone, the loperamide really made a massive difference. The only downside is that it made withdrawal a bit too easy for me, which may lead to relapse as I now know that I can avoid the absolute hell of morphine withdrawal. If I ever have to do it again, I will immediately take the loperamide and begin the taper.
Good on you man, it would be tough to do with kids in the equation. But that is also a great incentive to get straight and stay clean! It sounds like you've got a wonderful woman by your side too?
