Propylhexedrine.

[MistaJeff]

I've been hearing about propylhexedrine and have dismissed it. Today I was at the pharmacy looking for a specific DXM preparation that all the pharmacies in my area have decided to stop carrying, and I noticed Benzedrex inhalers there. They were just on the shelf, the very bottom shelf (so little kids can reach them?). I thought they would keep this shit behind the counter. I was also surprised at how inexpensive it is. I've stopped taking DXM very often because I can't get Zicam anymore, do you think propylhexedrine is worth trying or should I skip it?

 

[SkyblueMolly]

I use propylhexedrine to increase confidence and for stimulant effects mostly. At doses 40mg and lower, it's almost like watered down adderall/ritalin combined with the background adrenaline effects that hints to ephedrine and/or DMAA.
There is occasional overconfidence at higher doses, so watch out. Have a benzodiazepine in handy for when you get ragey. Exercising can help get the sometimes ragey effects out of it, and you'll exercise harder than you ever thought possible.

 

[SkyblueMolly]

Im using the benzedrex for recreational purposes, not studying.

I have a tolerance of 6mg Ativan, and I'm also going to cut half of the cotton and soak it in lemon juice for an hour. When I strain the half piece of cotton and drink it (the lemon juice, not the cotton), how much ativan do you think I should take with it? 2mg? 3mg? I also have a lot of Ativan, so I have plenty for the comedown.

One last question: Is taking Lorazepam and Propyhexedrine at the same time considered speedballing? Is there any dangers considering one is an upper and the other is a downer?

There's not much danger if it's a low dose benzodiazepine and a stimulant. Benzodiazepines aren't "downers", though they sometimes cause drowsiness at higher doses(at higher doses, they're downers). Benzodiazepines are anti-anxiety that works via GABA receptors. A low dose benzo is usually taken when a stimulant makes you too worried, ragey, overstimulated, or other.

 

[SoaV]

the crash is very rough, save the ativan for that. this is a STRONG stimulant, don't think because it's otc that its weak, it's often thought of as stronger than adderall. also, don't eat the cotton, and you may want to start with half to see how it affects you(you don't wan't to go into cardiac arrest, as stated above it is strong at the PNS).

there's loads of threads on the subject, look there for any more info.

People are probably gonna shit on me for saying this but I completely enjoy the high from propylhexedrine (the first high you get off 250mg after you haven't used any in at least 2 weeks, with a 250mg booster dose ready for you to redose if the effects are not strong enough for you although 250mg seems to be enough to produce a substantial speed high with empathogenic qualities it is very pleasant I find. I 've used lots of stims so I can compare it to adderall, 4-FA, and ice. I prefer instant release adderall although I think I would prefer dexedrine more but I doubt will ever come across any unless I hopped onto darknet or I faked a case of adhd which I don't want to have to lie to get drugs, lol 8).

Adderall being my stimulant of choice for several reasons, however propylhexedrine is tied in 2nd place for being my next favorite stim alongside 4-FA. You see I find the effects of 4-FA similar to propylhexedrine, even more similar to propyl than to methamphethamine, which is just not a smart drug to experiement with, the addiction potential is horrifying, but hey if IV'ing drugs like crank or heroin or crack sounds like a good idea to you, well now you've been warned of the addictive risk, if you weren't aware anyways I'm getting way off point. In fact I can't remember what was I going say hahah the ambien must be effecting memory, and perhaps the lines of cocaine I am in the process of snorting.

4-FA is also definitely mdma-esque is some of its' effects. But our waterboy for the local alligator wrestling association said that he much prefers pure molly shards, most beautiful mdma glasslike crystal shards, and 4-FA pails in comparison to a full on ecstasy roll. How much more so with some brown sugar mda sassafrass, also way above 4-FA if you're trying to enjoy an empathogenic amphetamine.

I'm done rambling coke is making me ramble ramble ramble HAHAH...

Edit: As for the lavender oil and menthol, it is completely safe to consume in the small quantities found in a single cotton rod, and will pose no feelings of 'garbage high' physically to speak of, it's all in the head of the user. Personally I view people who use otc DXM without performing a full fledged extraction of the cough medicine to be 'garbage users'. Yes it's biased and judgemental, but I do indeed view otc dxm as a classical garbage high right alongside huffing gasoline or paint stripper. Perhaps it's because I am hesitant to use dissociatives in the first place, and will only partake of something 'holey' pure like the divine molecule that is mxe.

Ideally one would get the most out of benzedrex inhalers if they full on extracted propyl from the cotton. But again who wants to go through this trouble when you could be shake and baking meth for the same amount of legwork?

So don't let the foul taste of lavender and menthol scare you or make you feel dirty, there are no adverse effects from the amounts in a cotton or two when ingested infrequently. If one were to use this multiple times a week or god forbid daily, one should be worried about the effects that propylhexedrine will take on one's heart and CNS health, lavender and menthol would be the least of your worries.

Only a fool would eat a cotton rod, or perhaps a young juvenile high schooler who subconsciously knows their body is resilient and can handle gelcapping a cotton without any adverse effects. But still, it's not advised. You can still get tweaked off the much kinder 'soak & squeeze' extraction.

 

[Crashing]

SoaV, i'm interested in trying propylhexedrine and i noticed you said your dose is 250mg? What are you dosages for adderall, 4-fa, and ice?

 

[SoaV]

SoaV, i'm interested in trying propylhexedrine and i noticed you said your dose is 250mg? What are you dosages for adderall, 4-fa, and ice?

Adderall I like to take 40-60mg bombed without a tolerance to get me tweaked. Crank god who knows, I would like to say a 30mg line will get me in the zone but I have terrible experiences of binging on it without measuring doses. 4-FA is a strange one for me, it does not get me tweaked. It actually sedates me, and I find that redosing more than once leads to feelings of sickness and a really wierd feeling that's not so pleasurable. I would say depending on ROA 40mg (plugged, or snorted which feels like getting punched in the face) - 100mg (oral) without a tolerance will have me feeling nice.

My preferred dose of propyl is in the 250mg range, sometimes a little higher. Tolerance develops rapidly with consecutive days use and I've found myself using 3 cottons in a day which only leads to horrible side effects and dysphoria. I would advise against using this more than biweekly, once a week at the very most but even then the positive effects will diminish I believe. Best to use it sporadically, but it is also quite addictive. But then that dosage may not be completely accurate because of the method of ingestion I am using. I cut the cotton into 4-6 pieces, and soak it in alcohol usually, like one drink of alcohol. Some people say lemon juice or water, and some say that water won't aid in extracting the cotton into liquid, which I have no idea is true or not or that lemon juice would aid extraction, I've also heard that citrus and acidic things can weaken amphetamines which again I'm not sure if it's true but I've soaked these babies in lemon juice and it seems to work better than water.

I find that soaking it in say a glass of white wine or even like a shot of your preferred liquor mixed with a cup of water is the ideal way for the 'soak & squeeze' extraction method, best to soak it for 24 hours apparently but you can still get enough out in 20-30 minutes, just squeeze the cotton out and let soak again while you are ingesting it, rinse & repeat a few times. I find waiting 24 hours inconvenient most of the time as I usually only use propyl impulsively which I am about to go get a cotton right now and will report back on the effects to get the freshest opinion I can offer on it. Also propyl is a strong vasoconstrictor and I find that taking a small amount of a vasodilator alongside it really allows the positive effects to come out while minimizing any awkward head tension. In fact I simply cannot take propylhexedrine without having say 2 glasses of wine while coming up on it and then 2 more drinks on the comedown, however I find that taking a benzo instead of alcohol on the comedown allows one to avoid any harsh crash to speak of. Cannabis would probably be a good choice for the comedown as well.

People who report a nasty crash or bad effects of this drug are most likely 1) not taking care of themselves in general regarding eating healthy and exercising 2) ingested the entire cotton rod with no regard for their bodies 3) maybe are sensitive to propyl and took way too much, I would advise starting with a half cotton (soak the whole cotton but only drink half the mixture at first and wait to get a feel for the effects) and never ever ingest more than an entire cotton rod, if need be you could start redosing off a second rod in increments but be warned, the vasoconstrictive effects can really turn the experience in a different direction and lead to unwanted side effects.

 

[SoaV]

Yesterday I experimented by taking 1 cotton soaked in 2-3 tablespoons of organic unfiltered apple cider vinegar mixed in a cup of water, some preliminary notes leftover from yesterday:

I just took 250mg of propyl soaked in apple cider vinegar and water. Not going to use any alcohol and see how it results. Also going to see if there is any tolerance from the propyl ingested yesterday.

Conclusion on yesterday's experience is that tolerance was very high and the effects from the propyl were present but not substantial enough to be considered recreational or euphoric. No negative effects noticed in terms of vasoconstriction, however one unwanted behavioral side effect was fapping to porn for about 3 hours. We're trying to stop this type of behavior completely anyways because we find it counter-productive to certain goals in life we are trying to achieve, but anyways I think marijuana also played a part in having the experience take a turn towards watching porn because we were in a cannabis daze all day leading up to the experience, which also seemed to dull the effects a bit, being in a hazy cloud of residual thc effects.

So alcohol, weed, and porn aside, today we are trying to get a feel for the effects of propylhexedrine completely on its' own. To be honest I was always afraid of the vasoconstrictive effects of this drug and always took it with at least a glass or two of wine to act as a vasodilator, also the minor alcohol euphoria which only lasts during the first drink or two before turning into 'drunkenness' according to a study I read seemed to synergize very well with propyl.

Today then after eating a decent breakfast and vegetarian lunch consisting of baby kale greens, black beans, and leftover oatmeal with chia seeds and peanut butter, and having taken a multi-vitamin along with a super b-complex stress formula vitamin (we've read that a certain b-vitamin can exhibit vasodilative properties) we then proceeded to soak 2 cottons cut up into pieces in a cup of 2-3 tablespoons of apc vinegar mixed with water. Soaked for 30 minutes and drank about 3/4 of mixture, and is soaking again to redose as need be later after we asses the effects. So this makes it the 3rd day in a row of using propyl, and we know that a tolerance is very much present. I'm curious to see how the effects are going to be with the only substance being taken propylhexedrine, the only other time I tried taking propyl without alcohol was the very first time, in which I only took half a cotton and was really speedy but had no substantial euphoria until my 2nd time when I took the whole cotton. I think I panicked the first time I took it because it significantly raised my blood pressure and pulse, my body must have been shocked by it lol because I don't remember any other time taking it being so speedy, or perhaps this was because no alcohol was involved!

I will post back on how the effects turned out, right now it's been about an hour since I dosed and am not really noticing much as of yet, just hints of effects, granted I am still soaking and may redose as what I took was only 3/4 of 2 cottons soaked for 30 minutes which probably is not enough time to get all the stuff out of the cotton and even then I didn't remove and 'wash out' the cotton which probably gets out even more after the last soak. Anyways enough about soaking cotton, will check back in a couple hours with effects. And will also report back on how it goes just taking b-vitamins as a vasodilator, probably will be better than alcohol and it certainly sounds healthier!

 

[SoaV]

Conclusion:

Tolerance is a bitch. Adderall poses the same issues for me with tolerance when I am trying to use it recreationally. I can get blasted off a reasonable dose if I wait like 2 weeks in between each time I use it. I remember the last time I did adderall was a terrible experience lol. The first dose I took was 60mg of ground up XR beads parachuted in a small piece of TP. My pupils dilated and I was tweaked in the most productive, focused, as well as euphoric of ways. Then I tried to redose a couple hours later, well it gave me a speedy rush but the focused euphoria was disappearing rapidly. I managed to get to sleep late and the next day figured I'd give it another go because I at least had a few hours of sleep (I use to stay up for days in a row in high school binging on adderall, I would also insufflate XR's crushed up which apparently was the most ineffective ROA as adderall is best taken orally (crushed and bombed) after preloading your stomach with a little baking soda. Anyways the 2nd day resulted in very awkward feelings in my head, there was no tweak or pleasure, just blah and confusion, with scattered focus. Adderall when taken in higher dosages should only be used once a week or every other week ideally as tolerance increases and receptiveness diminishes rapidly and the magic blast of euphoria will completely vanish if one keeps chasing it too often.

At least with propyl when I try to dose again the next day it doesn't leave me feeling out of place in my own head and scatterbrained like adderall does. I simply won't gain any noticeable effect other than mild stimulation. However if I try to increase the dose to bypass the tolerance issue it results in similar feelings that adderall gives me when dosing more than one day every week or more, which is confusion with awkward physical sensations. Also propyl when taken in doses above 250mg seems to always result in body tightness and sometimes awkward feelings in the top of your head which is probably due to vasoconstriction.

Off the 2 cottons today which I dosed over about the course of 3 hours so as to avoid a dreaded 'thunderclap' headache or worse, I didn't feel any tweak or rush at all just a mild stimulation, which seems to be building still perhaps because of the incremental dosing, and I still have not finished it. But I just drank 2 glasses of wine because there was no euphoria to speak of, and I was starting to get tight in my back and have awkward head feelings. The wine definitely killed the body tension.

All in all propylhexedrine, like adderall, is best used infrequently if one wants to maintain the magical rush of euphoria and even empathogenic qualities with a quantum leap in desire and ability to socialize that is best utilized sporadically. My frequent use of this chemical ends here. I feel that I have seen what it can offer and that is a euphoric rush for a few hours, granted it only works that way if you dose every other week at the most.

Also it seems like 1 cotton is the way to go, not sure if the manufacturers thought about how much to put in one cotton haha but 250mg seems like a perfect dose for a great experience. Anything over that is usually always accompanied by unwanted side effects that need to be countered with other substances, and even then there is no guarantee of avoiding an unpleasant experience.

 

[RDP89]

^^haha I agree, it seems like they know 250 is a perfect dose. And when you think about it, recreational use could make them more money than the legit use does. I mean, with legit use one inhaler will last you months, with recreational it's one time use. Then again Im sure alot of users, especially younger ones justs steal the shit anyway. 'm sure they know, though theyd never admit it.

I mean shit, theres reports of abuse going back to the 80's. Anyway, just felt like posting as I've ingested 250 mg.of the stuff today, first real stim high in awhile. I always use ibuprofen to try and counteract vasoconstriction, which I would advise or another vasodilator. Wish I had adderall or dexedrine available, but at least good ole p-hex is still otc.

 

[Burnt Offerings]

The high from it is comparable to methamphetamine. Not as fun, though.

 

[RDP89]

The high from it is comparable to methamphetamine. Not as fun, though.

True, though that can be a good thing as easier to put down and get to sleep. I fing myself resorting back to this, as no other stims are available to me.(Once again probably a blessing in disguise, but damn I wish I had least had a decent adderall or even vyvanse connect, but I digress.) I also kind of wanted to ask a question in here ,but probably too sparse of traffic, but I'll give it a go anyhow.
Has anyone found any good otc vasodilators that are good to use with p-hex/stimulants in general?? Ibuprofen, gingko biloba,niacin all don't seem to do a whole lot, even when mixed. No access to benzo's and don't plan to use anyway. So if anyone sees this and has a good reliable substance in mind let me know.