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Misc Potential PI dealer?!

KodytheLoadie

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So first off, been gone not annoying y'all for a while. I haven't read any responses to my last post, but am looking forward to it. But, no, I'm actually not dead, lol....

So basically my wife and I were getting strung off on, like, a couple different substances a few months back, so we totally quit everything. Needless to say it's pretty fucking bomb being in a relationship and having the kind of mutual support and system of accountability where the pair of you can go from meth and heroin every single day for months on end and then tell each other, 'alright no more fuckin off' and you actually quit.

Blah blah blah, life is fucking boring as shit, so we found some brown shit and messed with that over the weekend. Really that shit doesn't bother me at all. Like, we aren't child pornographers or fucking radicalized islamic militants or some shit. We do drugs and sit at home and make art for a weekend, fuckin sue me. We sort of wanted just a point to finish out the day, right?

Enter: Someone I know (legitimately a third party, just to clarify, lol) I heard like a week ago from mutual friends that they got raided. Total waste of taxpayer money, they couldn't of gotten even a quarter ounce off the fuckin streets raiding this guy, seriously a minnow, you know? Well he has like the only legit hook up in this town, I swear, and the place is dead, like apparently DEA has been all over this bitch the past few weeks. Nothing scary for me because I haven't been around the crowd for a good period of time. My spider senses must have been going off, lol.

So my buddy is a stand up guy. He's a former marine, injured Iraqi war vet has his shit together... by all means does not need money from doing whatever he may or may not do. I really think he'd have the balls to bitch a detective out like I would do. "You want me to rat bitch? Where's my fuckin cell?" you know? Loose lips sink ships. And I KNOW he's the sort of person who, were he being watched, would give me a heads up like "Dude, I'm going out of town for a few weeks" or something. He hasn't been contacting me at all except right when he got out I called to legit ask what was up (feel him out, are you my friend still sorta shit). He talked for a minute but had to go pretty quick for some reasonable reason that I accepted, obviously. Besides we're both men of few words so we wouldn't ever sit and talk like school girls on the phone or nothing, so, whatever it seemed fine to me.

Anyway news flash, you lose contact with some people for a month and I'm now realizing I live in a damn drug desert. So I HAD told my wife not to call, text, contact the dude at all for a while. She listened about as well as any woman can generally be expected to (Joking, ladies I swear. But on second thought, actually yea you guys listen to really important shit like a fuckin rock. LOVE YOU BABY IF YOU'RE READING XOXO!). So we couldn't find, like I said, trying to finish out our weekend, and she took the liberty of texting our friend, of course, and came to me and said "Oh, so-and-so said he can help us out".

SO MY ACTUAL TOPIC:
So I looked over my wife's texts to him and he seemed ok earlier. But it's taking him forever to respond (hours sometimes), and he's like "oh i got you covered," "Can I drop by with that money I borrowed last week (don't owe him money), is it okay (never text okay, always ok) (real drug people are like "yep I know that drill" right now, lol)- is it 'okay' if i come by sometime (No specific timeframe, can I come by and pay you some money and not receive anything in return, would that be safe?). Like, I'm honest to god not a complete know nothing jackass, I swear. And he won't text back for two fuckin hours (honestly, still pretty typical. Fucking drug dealers these days, I swear!). So I'll text a while later, "How's work?" (He doesn't work, I think you guys get the drill etc etc.) and he'll text right back "Yea I got you," then again, "is it okay to come by?" and fuckin nothing!

So my wife and I were talking like 'Ok, is he trying to say quit hounding me, leave me alone type shit and he's just doing a terrible job?'. I get how setup buys etc. work, like, people don't WANT to set you up the punk ass cops fucking MAKE people set you up. And if you don't go along they'll just tap your phone and monitor your house because some jack ass bitch wrote this bullshit patriot act shit. Second thought, 'Ok he's just being a shitty fucking typical drug dealer ignoring my ass or not seeing messages'. I'd honestly hope that's it (and it probably is) because that means he's so not worried about it that he's just doing his typical everyday shit like nothing. Or third note, I've been out of the scene, all the years and contacts I've been using in this town, I'm on nobody's fucking radar because I'm not a complete fucking moron and I cover my ass and because I'm a badass motherfucker who plays the game and don't let the game play him (DUH!), so third thought, like 'Baby pick the window you want to go out of because you DIDNT FUCKING LISTEN, and now I'm already fucked and the bad guys (Yes, actually, the cops ARE the fucking bad guys when push comes to shove) ALREADY have my number now and if I go there then they'll have my license plate number and a picture too...' Oh wait if they have my phone number then they already ordered me some fucking flowers for my birthday coming up, called my grandpa in florida and rolled out front my place twice while I was smoking to check and make sure my driver's license pic still looked accurate to their standards. Oh wait they didn't have to do any of that because when they got my guy and looked at his phone I know he had strings of texts from me (old) in which we spoke pretty fucking plainly, so they've had all my shit for a week and they (most likely) don't fucking care because I'm not even a fucking minnow. I don't sell drugs or buy quantities of shit or trade in little suzie's fucking bicycle, I'm a legit recreational user. I don't appear on their give a flying fuck meter at all, just the way I like it. Seems reasonable where I'm sitting.

So my friend was out of jail pretty quick (not scary quick but he definitely didn't get his cellie's girl's number so he could check in when he got out). I'd imagine if they got him at primetime, they got like, maybe a ball or something (Of dark stuff, i'm not sure if that was clear heretofore). Probably bags, a measuring device, because, like me, my friend let himself get too fucking comfortable and was acting a fool. So I'd imagine they bitched him out good but I can't imagine they didn't throw any numbers around that any MAN WITH BALLS AND A WORD WORTH A SHIT (sorry) wouldn't just eat. Like I'd eat 6 months over being a rat, I'd eat a year, idk what my limit on eating my life away would be because no cop has ever had the pleasure of telling me about it. He's a first time offender (I know this as a fact), and our state, without giving away too much about my location... well let's just say I'd smoke weed outside the bar in the middle of downtown without a single quarter-fuck being given, so they're pretty lenient on drug offenders here. Yea, I'm aware leniency is a short leash when you're talking about things that are sold by points over grams, but still.... Other caveat; Like, I only want a point so A) any fucking cop gets me I'm gonna bitch THAT MOTHERFUCKER out for wasting my fucking tax dollars over such a piss on amount and B) I mean I haven't done ALLLLLLL the shit I've done (And I have) to go down on something that cannot be weighed using american measurement systems. I'll eat that shit, right in front of the fucking cop I'll fucking chew it up and everything "Yea tasty bitch, fuckin smarten up, boys!"

So my actual thing is like, risk reward, what are your personal opinions about something resembling my situation. And maybe if you know (firsthand) about any extra sneaky shit they've started to pull (Very recently! I'm aware that if a place were wired I should not look around too intently at anything and definitely don't talk about SHIT except the weather and the twenty bucks I owe you, thanks, man, that shit totally fuckin saved us from our power getting shut off). I don't need horror stories, I've heard your version, you've heard mine, so Ain't nobody time fo that!
 
Oh, and to the mod, sorry, this is probably drug culture topic but I post in OD because the people on here (sometimes) seem like a slightly lesser form of 'don't know shit' than the type of people that troll drug culture.... IDK if it can stay or not, I suppose it doesn't matter...
 
I don't think this is really a harm reduction topic, but I did enjoy reading your post!

You can't get in trouble for texting, obviously, so just drop it. Right? I mean, why even risk it (even though I doubt they are looking for small time busts. They want the guy above him, if anything).

Maybe it's a sign to be sober for a bit %)
 
I do fundamentally agree and it should be said, that WAS my standpoint on the matter too. I could still just do that...

Like my (ex) (step) family is huge in prison system in this one particular state and know, whatever, things that might be misconstrued (falsely) as like, quote unquote - 'organized crime' or something. I've seen the disclosure papers and discovery papers on people turned PI. And of course, my first thing is, 'ooh, that sucks but I'm gonna be on this other side of town for awhile' no biggie everyone gets it. I've also treated people like a rat (thrown them out of parties, my car, told them to stay out in the 10000 block etc) who I then, later, saw the discovery that says "No, this guy legit refused to cooperate on any form of investigation, we could not say a fucking number high enough to turn him" like, whoa! this guy's a badass!, I'm sorry man! - And then you look like a bird alarm meerkat, fucking scur'red little bitch and you gotta own it.

Now the woman fucking talked to him and I don't want to be rude and I would like to go face to face and feel some shit out and I'd rather do that with some tiny miniscule amount if I can.

Basically, I don't want to be disrespectful, act like a punk, and I could actually garner some airtight information by having a talk in person. There's a reward section that has nothing to do with getting high...


Harm reduction; Go down for a hundred days, parole out, then go find a house, a job, a fucking future at all.... That shit will do some serious fucking harm to your ten year plan, I promise.

I'm of the mindset that I'd rather see semi-regular users who use responsibly and still are upstanding citizens, because let's face it EVERYONE DOES DRUGS, then see underprivileged people, the oppressed peoples of the world go into the revolving door of the the fucking jailbait system so they can be further oppressed. I'm an altruist, keeping good people out of jail is a better community service than anything a run of the mill beat cop does on a day to day basis, trust me
 
as someone that knows exactly the type of scene your talking about, your just paranoid man. Leave him alone on the text other than maybe request what you want. and then try to call a few times a day for a few days. if the situation doesn't progress then just drop it man. dude is most likely just really strung out and or doesn't have anything to serve you in the quality or amount you want it yet doesn't want to lose your cash as a customer plus he strung out so will keep leading you on like that in a peculiar manner. I wouldn't worry too much about it tho
 
Listen to what you're saying. If you have to get up and ask BL our opinion of a dealer there's a problem. You're talking about a heavy DEA presence in your area. What the fuck exactly are you asking? Would I do business with a shady dude I barely know ("man of few words,"lol) when he's clearly being shifty and avoiding direct contact. Im gonna go a step further and use my intuition and infer it has all the common signs of a setup.

He wont meet wheb YOU want. Look out for him to call you and alert you when its ok for you to come thru. Informants usually pick the spot for obvious reasons: backup deputies and other task forces there to support the controlled buy.

If you're saying the DEA swept all your boys in that area, and this dude was spared... If u know he was dealing at the time, lose his number now. Its his job to sell his product to you. YOU can get that shit elsewhere. I'd advise you to do so.

Its his job to earn your trust back. He hasnt done it. Dont be a dumbass and look for any reason to trust him. You and your wife both have his number and text him separately? Just lol, what a joke. Bottom line is texts are paper trails and good dealers dont use them often if at all.

So yeah to answer what I think you're asking, id NEVER cop from your dude....
 
Yeah, that is good advice from ci56. If a situation doesn't feel right then don't engage, simple as that. Also, don't deal with people for whom it is impossible (or nearly impossible) to reach via phone call.

I'd probably give 2 general pieces of advice:

1) if you feel that your security has been compromised and you're paranoid about that (despite the fact that you're just a recreational user on the retail level, as you mentioned earlier), then clean house and fall off the radar for a while. Dispose of any and all drug-related shit in your house in a random dumpster somewhere, delete any correspondence you have that has to do with drugs, scrub your hard drive (if there's drug-related shit there) etc. And steer clear of illegal drugs generally-speaking until you feel it's appropriate to re-engage.

2) expand your social network to include more fellow users in your area. Fellow drug addicts are often (very often) really annoying but they can be very useful when it comes to finding new sources for drugs. Because lets face it, dealers come and go...they either get incarcerated, die, or enter temporary/permanent retirement. You need to be able to rotate your sources to some degree. I'm only really friends with a couple other users but it's enough that I never have to really worry about going "dry" if I don't want to.

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Don't reward bad business practices with your patronage.
 
I also couldn't make it through but chances are gge wouldn't set up his customer he needs to set up his supplier. What would the cops want with you? They already got him.
 
Been in his situation, you might be paranoid or maybe he is just trying to lay low. They didnt even want me to roll on anyone, they were happy enough to have gotten me. Being my forst offense and that i wasnt some broke fuck at the time i was able to have someone bail me out before i even went in and paid them back that day. Didnt even see the inside of a cell and ended up with house arrest and probation. If im reading correctly it was for the same shit and possibly even the same amount of shit. I know after that happened to me though i laid low for a long ass time and wanted nothing to do with anyone who was fucking around. It helped that i had and was able to keep my job and that it was my first offense, also i got a very lienient judge and a very expensive well know lawyer.

I would say just take it easy and lay off the dude for awhile, give him 6 months to collect himself and if he is a rat for him to roll on someone else and not you. As someone else suggested go look around the area for some new "friends" who do drugs and they will likely point you in the right direction. Just leave the sketchy guy alone for awhile and that way nothing bad can happen to you (even though if they wanted him to roll it would probably be on his supplier and not someone buying a small bit here and there) and find someone else or if you cant, just keep clean awhile and take a break since it sounds as if neither you or your girl are true addicts it shouldnt be a problem. Either way just keep safe and trust your gut!
 
It is true that in some jurisdictions there is no small-timer insignificant for law enforcement to target...there was a story in the Bluelight news and articles section about an undercover cop getting shot during a controlled buy of 60 dollars worth of methamphetamine 8)
 
It is true that in some jurisdictions there is no small-timer insignificant for law enforcement to target...there was a story in the Bluelight news and articles section about an undercover cop getting shot during a controlled buy of 60 dollars worth of methamphetamine 8)

Woo hoo war on drugs. I also think burnt offerings has some very sound advice. Play it safe, you can never know who or what the cops are going after. If it's been as dry as you say in your area, they might be looking for anyone to bust
 
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