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alasdairm said:
poker aphorisms:

- online, no matter how badly a hand of poker is played, somebody will comment "nh" or "nice hand"

- online, no matter how badly your game of poker is played, somebody will tell you "gg" or "good game"

:)

alasdair
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The first one is stoopid, I agree. The second one, I always interpret as meaning "it was good playing with you", not "you played well".

I like the "nice river" or "nice catch" comment. I got a classic one a few days ago. I've AT late position and raise 4xBB. Being online, I get 4 callers. flop comes QKx rainbow. I have nut straight draw with about 1500 in the pot. Everyone checks. Turn is another low card. Someone bets 60 (minimum). I call, few others call. River is J, giving me the nuts. Someone bets 300, next guy calls, I raise, get three callers.

I show down the straight and the guy who min bet comments "nice river". All I could do not to give him a lesson in pot odds (calling 60 into a 1500 pot is 25 to 1, my chances of drawing a J are about 1 in 12). Instead I just gave him the donkey's response of "ty", hoping to tilt him. Seemed to work, a few hands later he re-raised all in on the river with two pair and lost to an obvious straight :)
 
alasdairm said:
^ did they catch?
that said, perhaps it's just the number of hands i see which skews my memory but, playing online a pocket pair almost never manages to stand up against two over cards when it's a classic coin toss...

alasdair
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According to the odds calculator, fozzy would have been a slight favourite to win the hand (38% vs 31% for the AT and 21% for the A7). There's also the small chance that the SB would fold, I guess. Mathematically, a correct play - but tactically? I'll leave that to smarter people than me :)
 
i hate to admit it but it being past 2 am influenced my thinking in the hand. my take on it was if the button wins i still have more chips then i started then hand with. small blind wins i take 2nd and $150 and get some sleep. also influencing my decision was the blinds were going up to 500/1000 next hand so i would have been very short stacked at 11,500 and been praying for a coin flip. the big stack won by the way took my 100 profit and got some sleep.
 
Sim0n said:
According to the odds calculator, fozzy would have been a slight favourite to win the hand (38% vs 31% for the AT and 21% for the A7).
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without knowing what was folded, it's impossible to know for sure. certainly, prevailing conditions would influence my decision but, lately, as far as i can tell, a pair never seems to hold up to two over cards online regardless of the odds :)

alasdair
 
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Heh, lately I'm finding that a pair doesn't hold up against one over and one under card (JJ v Q5, say). My new theory on poker is always fold JJ preflop ;) (that, and follow the Banana System)
 
poker aphorism:

- there's no good way to play JJ - you always get screwed.

alasdair
 
I am not sure you would want to fold JJ preflop. You can set hunt and look to stack your opponent if given implied odds. Also I think it has decent value as an overpair, but if you are not taking the pot down at the flop you are really going to need to think about check-folding. Also if you are coming up against big resistance, even if the board is low you have to think about folding.

When I play JJ I just don't let myself get attached to it.
 
I hear you :) I was being slightly facetious. It just seemed that everytime I played it I either ran into an idiot holding Q5 who got lucky, or the one time I hit a nice safe board with no overcards, someone else had pocket AA. (OK, I'm discounting the time I hit top set and broke someone who'd hit a set of 5s).

I'm going to try and play JJ like a low-mid pocket pair, try to hit a set, like you say :)
 
I play jj (the fifth best hole hand) very agg pre-flop and hope to get some callers. after all, if a mouse re-raises, i'll either call or fold..depending on the size of the raise. if the flop is all rags, I'll continue to play it strong, hoping to knock out people with overcard draws..thereby taking the pot before the turn and river.

if the flop is scarry and someone bets into it heavily (after already calling my agg pre-flop raise/reraise), I'll most likely fold.

this is what phil helmuth's book recommends anyways.
 
also, i'm on pokerstars now..pretty good site if anyone is interested in a heads up.
 
thizzSantaCruz said:
When I play JJ I just don't let myself get attached to it.
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that's a good way to put it.

we touched on the 'playing to win' mindset earlier in the thread and i've really been trying to bear this in mind.

i've been analysing my online game over the past couple of days and i've started winning again. i realised that i would focus and play to win for about 80% of the time, then i would implode and go out on the bubble time after time. i was basically losing patience. now i've refocused and have been commiting to the game 100% of the length of the game and i'm back on track. sounds naive but it's easily done.

poker aphorism

- an ace on the board can be as useful when you don't have one in your hand as when you do

again, i know this seems naive but a lot of people starting out, when they see an ace come on the board immediately think "s/he has an ace" when as often as not, they don't. set yourself up for success by thinking more positively.

:)

alasdair
 
i play mostly single table, six-seat sit 'n' gos. once in a while, i'll play a multi-table (say 18 or 20 or 30 seat) sit 'n' go.

once in a while, i'll play a multi-table tournament with anywhere between 100 and 1000 players. my best finish is first place in a pokerstars $5 mtt which netted me about $360.

alasdair
 
alasdairm said:
once in a while, i'll play a multi-table tournament with anywhere between 100 and 1000 players.
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i just got done with an ultimatebet 100-seat 'mini' tournament:

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i've been taking a long look at my game and have really focused on some weaknesses. it's already paying off with the win above and i took third in a $40 casino tourney last night.

:)

alasdair
 
I can't even read the message Alasdairm how much did you walk away with?

In my tourney news I played in only my 3rd MTT and placed 18th out of 360 people and took home 82 dollars on stars.
 
vB resized it - just click on it and you'll see it more clearly :)

i got $142.50 for 3 hours work :)

alasdair
 
so i was watching re-runs of the ws my question was what is the policy of showing your cards? i'm talking about the hand when jamie gold flashed a jack and there was a potential straight out there if he was playing J/9... i always thought that this mucked his hand. in fact i remember a hand this year when someone exposed one card on accident offered to play the hand with everyone knowing what that card was... a tournament director was called over and he ruled that the hand had to be mucked.
 
i had a rude awakening last week when playing (pot-limit hold 'em) at the Bellagio ... i rated myself as a pretty strong online and small-town player, but i basically got destroyed in Vegas. Lost my first $100 in blinds alone and had to buy-in twice more before i realised that it was a different style of game ... for some reason i just didn't have the balls to play my natural game ... i was constantly folding winning hands and was very dissapointed with my efforts ... that said, in 8+ hours of poker, i only had one pocket pair (9's) and only got Ace/King twice (both unsuited), so maybe i can blame the cards ;)

congrats alasdair!
 
fozzy nutz said:
so i was watching re-runs of the ws my question was what is the policy of showing your cards? i'm talking about the hand when jamie gold flashed a jack and there was a potential straight out there if he was playing J/9... i always thought that this mucked his hand. in fact i remember a hand this year when someone exposed one card on accident offered to play the hand with everyone knowing what that card was... a tournament director was called over and he ruled that the hand had to be mucked.
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I was always under the impression that you could reveal your cards at any time and the hand will play on. I have seen people use this strategy in brick and mortar games when they are contemplating a call. They show their opponenet their hand and gauge their reaction. Untill they verbally announce their action or physically shove chips into the pot they have not acted yet.

The situation with the revealed card mentioned above most likely happened preflop when hands are being dealt. This might change the situation.
 
^ yep - i don't think it's against the rules to show your cards. the casino i play at (indeed most i think) have a "show one show all" policy so you can't just show your cards to one player. also, win or lose, you cannot show only one card. if you turn one, you have to turn the other.

last week i had about $40 in my online account. today i have $280. i put it down to the following:

- patience

- properly playing position

that's a nice poker alliteration :)

alasdair
 
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