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Pick the next lysergamide RC

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black53

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We've all probably heard the rumors of another lysergamide RC coming after the next batch of AL-LAD is finished. Now assume you're the one who gets to decide which one. Which do you pick?
 
PRO-LAD ETH-LAD or maybe even PARGY-LAD? I can't say for sure since I hadn't tried AL-LAD or LSZ. :( Just LSD and morning glory LSA.
 
And as for which one I'd pick - 6-allyl-6-nor-lysergic acid 2,4-dimethylazetidide aka al-lsz, don't even care if it would be active

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With a novice user there is no substitute for the historically supported safety profile of LSD. There are probably better options out there. I have put many different chemicals through my body, but this is my own life to ruin or edify. I would never use anything other than LSD when another persons safety is involved.

For experienced individuals looking to experiment the decision depends on where you live. If you live in the United States I would avoid buying drugs on-line at all cost post Snowden leak. I would also avoid selling illegal drugs or analogues, especially when people under 30 are involved. There is a reason the majority of multi-year major darknet LSD distributors were from outside the United States. (1) It's not like the hounds of hell are going to get released on you though. There is still a very real risk in that country since the D.E.A. gutted the acid culture in the 90s. Reme
mber the United States handed out multiple life sentences for non-violent LSD related crimes. If you live outside the predominantly English speaking world there are probably many reasonable options. Your guess would be as good as mine. If any of you all speak Hindi, live in India, and become casual acquaintances face to face with a commercial chemist. Please hop on a plane and share the spoils with your western friends.

(1) Someone will have to confirm this. I never purchased anything from these sites. I did browse them on occasion, but never paid much attention. I do remember few American dealers appeared to be in business longer than a year.

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http://www.shulginresearch.org
http://www.freeleonardpickard.org
http://www.maps.org
http://www.erowid.org
 
sean107 said:
Reason for choosing AL-LSZ? If I may ask.
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Of course you may, that's kinda the whole point of message boards.

a) most others only change R2 and R3 or R6 or R1, this one changes R2, R3 and R6
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b) it's the only lysergamide I thought of in my head

c) if I'm gonna be fantasizing why not go all the way (ok I restrained myself from also replacing the hydrogen atoms with deuterium)

And I have to admit, I wonder if it would be active/produce desirable effect.... if I ever get rich.....
 
FunctionalOlfactio said:
With a novice user there is no substitute for the historically supported safety profile of LSD. There are probably better options out there. I have put many different chemicals through my body, but this is my own life to ruin or edify. I would never use anything other than LSD when another persons safety is involved.

For experienced individuals looking to experiment the decision depends on where you live. If you live in the United States I would avoid buying drugs on-line at all cost post Snowden leak. I would also avoid selling illegal drugs or analogues, especially when people under 30 are involved. There is a reason the majority of multi-year major darknet LSD distributors were from outside the United States. (1) It's not like the hounds of hell are going to get released on you though. There is still a very real risk in that country since the D.E.A. gutted the acid culture in the 90s. Reme
mber the United States handed out multiple life sentences for non-violent LSD related crimes. If you live outside the predominantly English speaking world there are probably many reasonable options. Your guess would be as good as mine. If any of you all speak Hindi, live in India, and become casual acquaintances face to face with a commercial chemist. Please hop on a plane and share the spoils with your western friends.

(1) Someone will have to confirm this. I never purchased anything from these sites. I did browse them on occasion, but never paid much attention. I do remember few American dealers appeared to be in business longer than a year.

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http://www.shulginresearch.org
http://www.freeleonardpickard.org
http://www.maps.org
http://www.erowid.org
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Might I ask why exactly you wouldn't buy drugs online in the states now? I never have myself, and thus I'm curious why I shouldn't now. It has been getting very difficult to find anything but pot here.
 
Lots of people do (obviously), but it carries a risk... you can have packages seized by customs. I haven't really read of people actually getting in trouble for this, unless the package contained specifically scheduled substances. But if a package were to get seized I would sure be paranoid. I have never had a package seized but I also have not placed any order in years.
 
I suppose the one everyone wants is ETH-LAD. Shulgin liked it. Rats liked it too...

However, it is already illegal in the UK.
 
I'm guessing that just like with the DALTs, the technicality is alkyl substitutions which are saturated hydrocarbons (no double or triple bonds) e.g. ethyl, propyl, butyl. In the case of DALT compounds and AL-LAD there are allyl substitutions which fall under the category of alkenyls, they are unsaturated as they have double bonds. I am not surprised ETH-LAD is illegal in the UK, but PARGY-LAD might not be which has a propargyl substitution falling under the category of alkynyls. With LSZ there is a completely different functional group altogether, definitely not a simple alkyl extension.
I am afraid that with LSB it will be just that though: an alkyl extension of one of the amide ethyls while foregoing the other.
 
ETH-LAD please ;), I would say ALD-52 but that would be cheating as it supposably degrades into LSD (I have no proof if this is even legit so don't flame me if this has been disproven). If that is the case though there would be a fuckload of legal issues stemming from customs lol, I know I wouldn't have the balls to place an international order for ALD-52.
 
240sxLover said:
Might I ask why exactly you wouldn't buy drugs online in the states now? I never have myself, and thus I'm curious why I shouldn't now. It has been getting very difficult to find anything but pot here.
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The only thing I know about going on in the states now is winter. So it is only worse now vs a month ago if cabin fever has an influence on the safety of buying drugs online.


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http://www.shulginresearch.org
http://www.freeleonardpickard.org
http://www.maps.org
http://www.erowid.org
 
Best bet seems to be ETH-LAD. I would also be interested in LAE-32, LPD-824, LSM-775, LSP and MIPLA.
 
MAL-LAD seems a reasonable bet but that's not my idea, I stole it off Solipsis, who posted in some other Lysergamide thread some months ago...
 
Too bad it sounds so much like malady =D

I'd sign up for LSM, hell yes. Hard to explain.
 
Which ever one is like LSD but but like half the duration.
 
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