PCP withdrawal - itching and twitching

[Toz]

I abused PCP for a month, got tired of it, quit and since then I've experienced some twitching but more notably: terrible itching all over. It's been going on for 2 weeks now and it's just really annoying and won't stop. I expected the twitching, but what's with the itching? Some rebound cholinergic effects?

 

[Toz]

Sorry for double posting but this really got alot worse. I get random attacks during the days where I will almost lose my vision and see lots of flashing lights and get extremely dizzy. Sometimes it comes with strange neurological symptoms such as feeling if my body is covered in warm water. Sometimes I just lose all sense of feeling and my heart rate goes through the roof. Sometimes people just tell me I don't respond but I never notice them asking anything. It's like I'm losing time.

After this sometimes it hurts like hell, as if I've had cramps.

Am I having seizures? Or is this some withdrawal I just need to sit out?

 

[deano88]

Time is the biggest healer pal try going to your doctors and see if he can prescribe you some benzos or something that might help. Let us know how you get on

 

[GolemGolem]

It does sound a bit worse than the normal itchy and weird ride back to normal. A doctor might be in order if you can find one you can be honest with. Sorry I can't be of much more help than that.

 

[pofacedhoe]

benzos are a bad idea.

you can freak yourself out by over analysis thing. 3 meo-pcp for me had an anxious withdrawl. it gets better. its got serotonin/dopamine reuptake inhibitor properties so maybe some of this is just panic symptoms

 

[bingey]

maybe try some anti-histamines? Promethazine/diphenhydramine?

 

[Toz]

benzos are a bad idea.

you can freak yourself out by over analysis thing. 3 meo-pcp for me had an anxious withdrawl. it gets better. its got serotonin/dopamine reuptake inhibitor properties so maybe some of this is just panic symptoms

Yea benzos is a terrible idea for me as I've been addicted to them for years and finally managed to quit using them half a year ago. I will try magnesium glycinate instead for the cramps when it arrives hopefully arrives tomorrow (stupid customs been sitting on it for months). I'm probably getting worked up over nothing but it feels so terrible. I've had tonic clonic seizures before and they felt similiar, the only difference is then I would find myself on the ground wondering what had happened. Now I will still be standing/sitting but I will still get unresponsive according to people. I don't remember it though.

maybe try some anti-histamines? Promethazine/diphenhydramine?

Tried this, made cramps alot worse while not providing any relief from the itches, however that problem is gone now anyway

edit: all problems seem to have subsided a great deal by now.

 

[pofacedhoe]

oooo there is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absence_seizure

do you have epilepsy or is this pattern of seizures maybe part of some protracted benzo withdrawal symptom that the pcp use has amplified?

because benzo withdrawal takes ages and lowers your seizure threshold and you were on them for years. daily use for a few months gave me a withdrawal were it felt like my brain was on fire

 

[deano88]

Pcp is one thing I have never come across its extremely rare in the uk not sure why but then so is meth. Whats so appealing about it is it really addictive? From what I have read online it seems people have a lot of bad experiences on it

 

[Solipsis]

you can freak yourself out by over analysis thing. 3 meo-pcp for me had an anxious withdrawl. it gets better. its got serotonin/dopamine reuptake inhibitor properties so maybe some of this is just panic symptoms

Yep me too so seconded.

Maybe visit a doctor if it gets worse and see what (s)he can help with? If it stays the same and slowly gets better ride it out. I never really heard about this particularly but I don't hear much about PCP in general. And as said: 3-MeO-PCP and 3-MeO-PCE were very nasty to me on the comedown even after short-term use which is a shame because the experiences were very nice. I would probably attribute it to personal weakness / sensivity though if I had to judge.

best of luck, be picky about your drug / pharm use and make sure you don't run any more risks or get hooked on something but if something helps and is reasonable, do consider it.

 

[!_MDMA_!]

You should share some of your best pcp experiences now! Like what are your general highs like, what were some of the crazy ones? How much did you abuse it and how did you consume it?

 

[pofacedhoe]

Pcp is one thing I have never come across its extremely rare in the uk not sure why but then so is meth. Whats so appealing about it is it really addictive? From what I have read online it seems people have a lot of bad experiences on it

3meo-pcp which is very similar is at low doses very euphoric and makes you feel big and floaty, its very nice indeed. its just like normal life except colours and lights are brighter and more intense and its like everything is better but combine it with weed and its simply amazing

 

[lovepsychadelics]

Never had crazy access to pcp to use it for a month but it's similar to 3 meo pcp just double the potency. I enjoy both and believe me it's VERY rare/hard to come by either substance in Australia. Indeed it seems to be more prevalent in some parts of the USA when I visited some relatives in California and friends in Seattle but that was over a decade ago. I've only come across 1 x 100 mg vial here in Australia (cost was astronomical although 5-10 mg was enough for a solid experience), a few questionable pcp laced joints, cones/bowels (felt like pcp but really who knows) and dissolved in liquid in a vial around 2000 (used to lace some joints). 3 meo pcp is more common but even that is rare here compared to countries with a booming RC trade like the UK and USA etc.

I have not had access to these drugs in great enough quantities to experience any severe withdrawls or other negative physical symptomology but I can imagine it'd be pretty damn horrid if you used it to excess. 3 meo pcp and pcp (Never experienced 3 meo pce) are drugs I'm really cautious with after one freaky experience smoking some laced dope and loosing my shit. Tried attacking traffic while walking home as I was so entitled. Had a war with my fridge although I'm not 100% sure as to why. Was really sketchy as it was my first experience with pcp and I had no idea what I was on because the extent of my dissociative experience at this point was limited to a couple of lines of K and I didn't come close to the hole on either occasion.

That experience scared the shit out of me however I have since found low doses to be quite enjoyable. 5-10 mg of pcp max 2 times in a day or 10-20 mg 3 meo pcp dosed max of twice a day more than enough (if i'd done 10mg pcp or 20 mg 3 meo pcp the second dose is usually 1/2 the first). This also ensures my meager supply is used to the best effect. I also like to leave 6-8 hours between doses, they are both weird and wonderful beasts but you can easily overdo it and lose your shit and it seems to stay in your system for a while.

To the OP: Solipsis and pofacedhoe give some really good advice and have a great deal of knowledge far more than my paltry knowledge of the substance and the adverse effects. Avoid the benzo's and anti-histamines as already mentioned. Epileptic symptoms such as seizures are treated with medication such as tegretol, phenotoin (I do not think it's indicated for absence seizures however) or sodium valproate but these must be prescribed by a GP and the condition diagnosed, in most cases, by a specialist. I sincerely hope things get better for you soon and you are not suffering from these symptoms for much longer.

 

[Toz]

Yea this hasn't gotten much better at all to be honest. The symptoms dissappear then reappear all the time though at somewhat lesser intensity but not much. This feels similiar to the withdrawal gabapentin gave me but it's not nearly as bad. Still it really sucks and if you think you can get away with abusing strong NMDA antagonists without both physical and mental withdrawal symptoms for months afterwards, you are wrong. This is more tolerable than the opiate withdrawal I orginally used the PCP for but it's not that much better to be honest.

This is going to be one of those long-ass withdrawals that is not intolerable but makes you feel like crap for months. I can feel it.

My doctor ordered some kind of brain scan anyway, since we have free health care here I might as well use it.

 

[JBrandon]

This is going to be one of those long-ass withdrawals that is not intolerable but makes you feel like crap for months. I can feel it.

My doctor ordered some kind of brain scan anyway, since we have free health care here I might as well use it.

Fuck man, do I feel that. Never had access to PCP but I'll take a week of feeling like I'm dying over months of PAWS.

 

[Toz]

A year has passed now. Not much has happened since. I suffer permanent dissociation, can't function at all anymore. The effects just repeats on me every day over and over. I spend most of my time staring into a wall and listening to my ipod. Is there any hope this will reverse itself in time or has too much time passed for there to be any hope? Anyone else here suffer long lasting dissociation from pcp or ketamine?

 

[phuckingnutz]

benzos are a bad idea.

you can freak yourself out by over analysis thing. 3 meo-pcp for me had an anxious withdrawl. it gets better. its got serotonin/dopamine reuptake inhibitor properties so maybe some of this is just panic symptoms

Actually, IMC, benzos helped with the anxiety associated with 3-MeO-PCP (PCP) withdrawals, just keep a handle on them or you'll have even worse anxiety from the benzo rebound.
Also, the physical part of PCP WD's was pure hell, hot/cold spots in different areas on my body, night sweats to the point of soaking the sheets through, and of course, terrible, intractable anxiety.
All this lasted a week or so for me, have only done PCP once since, and it freaked me out for some reason.
A year though...damn man, IDK, but sounds like something maybe got "damaged"...I can't even imagine a fucking YEAR of what I went through in that short time I was WDing from that shit.
OH, is your stuff 3-MeO-PCP or the real deal, in which case you're buying it on the black market and it might de adulterated with all sorts of noxious shit.
I still have an urge to do it again, but then I remember the BS involved and stop myself, so far....

 

[Toz]

I used both PCP and 3-meo. Though both drugs were active at above 3mg so they can't have been adulterated too much. I saw my doctor today and he just shaked his head again and gave me more lyrica to deal with the overheating and cramps. Unfortunately this also triggers even worse dissociation. I don't know, I was just hoping for someone here to come say they had recovered after such a long period of dissociation. Now I am going to lay down and watch as the roof opens up to reveal a sea of fractalized patterns. Then it's going to be time for bed and tomorrow will be the same. I think I am fucked to be honest.

 

[crOOk]

I abused PCP for a month, got tired of it, quit and since then I've experienced some twitching but more notably: terrible itching all over. It's been going on for 2 weeks now and it's just really annoying and won't stop. I expected the twitching, but what's with the itching? Some rebound cholinergic effects?

Lolwut? How sure can you be this was PCP? I've taken PCP non-stop for close to 4 months and never had any withdrawls whatsoever. Even if you did have PCP, it sounds like there was something icky in it.

My advice: If it get's worse, see a doctor. Otherwise toughen it out with some antihistaminic agents!

EDIT: Ok sorry, just read your last post. I guess you did see a doctor. Way to go.

I'm sure you'll be fine man. I've had different types of post-dissociative paresthesiae, sometimes lasting for over a week. Bit in a hurry here to get high, so I'm not sure when this all happened. Hope you get well, man!


But again, how sure can you be it was PCP? PCP is very rare these days outside of certain areas. Unless you know the chemist yourself (or are at least a foaf) or have sent it in for analysis, I would bet my ass it was just some other shitty analogue.

 

[Toz]

I'm sure you'll be fine man. I've had different types of post-dissociative paresthesiae, sometimes lasting for over a week. Bit in a hurry here to get high, so I'm not sure when this all happened. Hope you get well, man!


But again, how sure can you be it was PCP? PCP is very rare these days outside of certain areas. Unless you know the chemist yourself (or are at least a foaf) or have sent it in for analysis, I would bet my ass it was just some other shitty analogue.

It was year ago and I can't be sure it was actual PCP, but I am sure it was not 3-meo-pcp. Bought it on the 'road from some vendor other people had given good reviews. The dissociation is semi-permanent anyway, I am still high to this day, with lots of side effects. I am however sure I overdosed the last time as it caused overheating and incredible cramps and pain that has lasted untill now when it's finally starting to subside. My main problem is I just won't come down. The drug effects just repeat on me over and over as if I had dosed it again every day. Has anyone here experienced something liked this?