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Oregon decriminalizing Hard Drugs

Are you surprised Oregon decriminalized hard drugs?

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Keif' Richards said:
I've gotta look at this as the tip of the spear really. When Cannabis began to be prosecuted as a civil offense across the country in many areas (including my own, Massachusetts) many years ago, it didn't matter what the law said, "It was legal, baby!". The cops no longer gave a shit about the arrests and the majority of offenses were "we found Cannabis on you while you were in the course of committing a burlgary" or whatever. It was a serious bridgehead, but it was hard to understand if that was actually what was intended by lawmakers.

Whatever the case truly is with decriminilization of the so-called "Hard Drugs", (thanks Holland), when a state does it, it will, I believe, start an avalanche of liberalization policies that will only make things better for all of us junkies. Believe me, I want to love the cops, let me love the cops. Let me believe that they have a purpose and that I need to let them do their job. SHOW ME

At any rate, solid news and good reporting. Back to you @deficiT with traffic in Southie.
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Lol, yeah this is just one step in the long march towards freeing our minds and bodies from an oppressive state government that seeks to suck us dry and leave us to rot in for profit prisons.
 
deficiT said:
Lol, yeah this is just one step in the long march towards freeing our minds and bodies from an oppressive state government that seeks to suck us dry and leave us to rot in for profit prisons.
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I only hope, @deficiT that one day, on a bright morning such as this, that you and I get to pull the lever of the guillotine, hand in hand, fingers-laced, as we decapitate the last of our fat American aristocracy and remit all current and former DEA members to the prison hulks described in Les Miserables. We will rebuild them. We will rebuild rats. We will make lice a thing again.

I am a history lover. I've always had a major hard on for revolutions like the French Revolution of the late 18th century. I love not only to study the politics of it all, but the psychology of populist policies and how things get out of hand. In short, it's my belief, that, while I do know everything there is to know and probably know better than any of you how life is meant to be lived, I would probably fail as "dictator for life" of my own little commune. I would want to punish those who I felt had wronged me.

I remember hearing repeatedly from my liberal New England teachers "Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely". I don't know if that is an Orwell quote. Basically, I think I could make things better for addicts and their health, but who really knows how badly I would fuck things up in the pursuit of what I believe to be right?
 
Keif' Richards said:
I only hope, @deficiT that one day, on a bright morning such as this, that you and I get to pull the lever of the guillotine, hand in hand, fingers-laced, as we decapitate the last of our fat American aristocracy and remit all current and former DEA members to the prison hulks described in Les Miserables. We will rebuild them. We will rebuild rats. We will make lice a thing again.

I am a history lover. I've always had a major hard on for revolutions like the French Revolution of the late 18th century. I love not only to study the politics of it all, but the psychology of populist policies and how things get out of hand. In short, it's my belief, that, while I do know everything there is to know and probably know better than any of you how life is meant to be lived, I would probably fail as "dictator for life" of my own little commune. I would want to punish those who I felt had wronged me.

I remember hearing repeatedly from my liberal New England teachers "Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely". I don't know if that is an Orwell quote. Basically, I think I could make things better for addicts and their health, but who really knows how badly I would fuck things up in the pursuit of what I believe to be right?
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This post is like pornography for my Revolutionary mind.
 
Organs of pretty shirt state right now so I’m not surprised in the slightest.
 
Central Oregon ain't too bad, if you come with your own money! Swarming with ex-Californians(yes I am one of them)
The outdoors is where it's at; always sunny unlike Portland.
And you can go skiing surfing or skating; which is good enough for me. I aint into the snowmachines, motorcycles or hunting, which occupies the rednecks just fine.

My son got a dui here and thank goodness for the drug decriminalization;
He had cocaine and pills of various types.
Not condoning his behavior; and grateful they pulled his driver's license lickety split.
The drugs would have landed him in prison; but now, with the new laws; it was just a fine.
 
I think it's ironic that the country which brought the world the war on drugs is nowadays among the first to decriminalize so called hard drugs.
 
UDOD = Unintentional Drug Overdose

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This paper’s empirical findings align with the Secretary of State’s conclusion. Across various empirical specifications, I find that Oregon’s decriminalization increased UDODs by 14%–25%
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I think it's a step in the right direction. I believe that every State should decriminalize drugs. I believe in the right to bare and consume intoxicants. So, anyone can take what ever they want.
 
I'm from the UK had no idea about this. Just happened the scroll and see this thread. So what does this mean for example ?
With say crack, are you legally allowed to have possession of it ?

What about dealing ?

I have no idea how any of this works and if it's turned out to be a good thing or made things worse.

Quite interested in this
 
If it's not the Portugal model then it will just add fuel to Oregon's dumpster fire. People should not be allowed to do drugs in public spaces. Decriminalization and a pure HR approach with no treatment enforcement or public use guidelines leads to disaster. I live in a West Coast city and our city is ghetto AF now because of the pure HR approach.
 
Portugal decriminalized the public and private use, acquisition, and possession of all drugs in 2000; adopting an approach focused on public health rather than public-order priorities.

substanceabusepolicy.biomedcentral.com

20 years of Portuguese drug policy - developments, challenges and the quest for human rights - Substance Abuse Treatment, Prevention, and Policy

Portugal decriminalized the public and private use, acquisition, and possession of all drugs in 2000; adopting an approach focused on public health rather than public-order priorities. Arguing that the Portuguese Drug Policy Model has not proven influential enough to emancipate drug use from the...
substanceabusepolicy.biomedcentral.com substanceabusepolicy.biomedcentral.com
 
G_Chem said:
Or the pandemic happened and people started hating life? Notice the peak corresponding perfectly with Covid prevention measures.

-GC
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on top of that the author is Canadian[!] and alll the high ranking in OD provinces have the same covid spike along with the fent spike back round 2016

fentanyl is not so much as mentioned here. [i guess it crept in slower down there but still at least deserves a mention?

instead we get this synthetic control.

I further test whether decriminalization decreased drug possession arrests in Oregon using standard synthetic control and difference-in-differences approaches, which allow for comparisons with a control group. Specifically, I apply these methods to annual police agency-level non-cannabis drug possession arrest (NCDPA) data from the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) program.2 I estimate that decriminalization caused NCDPAs to decrease by 63%–66%, in line with the estimate in Russoniello et al. (2023).3
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someguyontheinternet said:
tf is synthetic oregon
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maybe gaslighting?

While Ignoring COVID is a bigger fraud than ignoring synthetic opiates like fent -- ignoring fent here is still a pretty big fraud, and would possibly be a bigger faud if he was writing about his own fucking country for some reason.

In the abstract there is a link to whatever he is babbling about, its pretty lol, check it out.


Abstract​

This paper evaluates the causal effect of drug decriminalization on unintentional drug overdose deaths in a context with relatively poor access to drug treatment services. Using the synthetic control method, I find that when Oregon decriminalized small amounts of drugs in February 2021, it caused 182 additional unintentional drug overdose deaths to occur in Oregon in 2021. This represents a 23% increase over the number of unintentional drug overdose deaths predicted if Oregon had not decriminalized drugs
 
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