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Opium poppy shelf life?

axe battler

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So I'm on Methadone currently, but as were in February now and the poppy pods will begin popping up soon, I was wondering if there is a Safeway of storing them over several months without risking poisoning myself.
So I was thinking of drying and chopping them up, keeping the seeds for either seed yeah it for planting.

Tips.
 
Have you tried (the dreaded) poppy tea yet? I had a phase of it - jesus, i got so into it I even bought a feckin espresso machine that I put my pods into - supposedly that drains every last drop of goodness from your pods.

BUT...I dunno if it was crap pods or what but apart from maybe a few times I never got much of a hit from them. They used to warn "Don't take more than ten it might kill you..". I think I was using upwards of 150 at one point (and I had no tolerance whatsoever). Most of the pods I got were total duds. Even the ones from some specialist site where he was forever going "Turkish Cream Thunderfucks - WATCH OUT! USE NO MORE THAN FIVE! These come straight from the fields of Turkey to your door, picked by our finest Turkish goatherder Aladdin wearing his best sandals..."

I think I once said on a poppy board "I crushed up 200 of the cunts and I still couldn't get high" and I was roundly abused for spreading "dangerous" information.
 
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Morphine is stable. I have 25-year-old dried pods that are still good if not exactly the same as when I got them. Simply stored in a closet.
 
Ismene2 said:
Have you tried (the dreaded) poppy tea yet? I had a phase of it - jesus, i got so into it I even bought a feckin espresso machine that I put my pods into - supposedly that drains every last drop of goodness from your pods.

BUT...I dunno if it was crap pods or what but apart from maybe a few times I never got much of a hit from them. They used to warn "Don't take more than ten it might kill you..". I think I was using upwards of 150 at one point (and I had no tolerance whatsoever). Most of the pods I got were total duds. Even the ones from some specialist site where he was forever going "Turkish Cream Thunderfucks - WATCH OUT! USE NO MORE THAN FIVE! These come straight from the fields of Turkey to your door, picked by our finest Turkish goatherder Aladdin wearing his best sandals..."

I think I once said on a poppy board "I crushed up 200 of the cunts and I still couldn't get high" and I was roundly abused for spreading "dangerous" information.
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Some of the batches of dried pods that are doing the rounds currently are nothing like the batches of a few years ago. Most of the 'good alkaloids' have been removed (either deliberately or not I don't know) from the currently easily available batches of dried poppy pods in the UK.

A few years ago you could get major opioid effects from a few pods, heavy nods and itches and all that sort of good stuff. These days all the pods do is give a decent stimmy energetic mood and confidence uplift and a bit of relaxation, and an increase in appetite, and some gastro intestinal 'soothing'. I still like these pods, even though they are significantly less than they used to be; they do still have some value in my opinion, but they are nothing like they used to be.

I grind them down in a grinder, and there is no difference in the effects whether I have 2 grinders full of powder soaked in litres of just off the boil water, or a fraction of that dose. THis is the equivalent of 4-`12 large pods. As there is no difference it's only logical to use the minimum amount that yields the effects, such as they are, and so this is what I do.

In the 'good old days' I would have been comatose or dead on such a dose of 12 or more large potent pods. And I would have been heavily physically addicted and into significant w/d territory with continued daily use. Now there is no withdrawl, other than GI upset, lack of energy and lowered mood. They just aren't potent any more.

The dried pods easily keep for years Axe Battler.
 
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axe battler said:
So I'm on Methadone currently, but as were in February now and the poppy pods will begin popping up soon, I was wondering if there is a Safeway of storing them over several months without risking poisoning myself.
So I was thinking of drying and chopping them up, keeping the seeds for either seed yeah it for planting.
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Mate, surely if you're looking at feeding an addiction, then the 'shelf life' is immaterial. They will all be long gone before they go off.


But as long as they're dried properly, they shold last indefinitely...
 
@F.U.B.A.R. I would be wanting to store them until I'm off the meth. There's no point taking the on 95l jollop really.
Was gonna save a couple seasons worth for when I'm off the green
 
Anyone else finding that commercial dried pods are not what they were some 5 years, or more, ago?

I have gained a lot of benefits from the current variety, and it probably is a blessing in disguise that they are not the heavy, (noddy opiate heavy,) substance that they used to be.

Current crops are like some kind of mildly stimulating anti-depressant, and they just keep on giving, day after day!

Quite incredible really.
 
I only ever found one or two batches that worked - I think a lot of it depended on what was on the bottom of the goatherders sandals.

There used to be a british site that sold them but I cant find him anymore - "Omar's Old Familiar" or something - "Getting Britain fucked up on pods since 1870. Small family business of toothless opium addicts, I still proudly wear the sandals handed down to me by my great- grandfather taken off his still warm feet after he was slaughtered by the Mahdi's forces"

Has anyone else ever used the espresso machine for extracting opium? It was all the rage 15 years ago. I thought I was the shit with my vile tasting "opium coffee". I used to hand it round to friends so they could go home and vomit. Still never got me higher than an 8/500 cocodamol.

Any Jim Hogshire fans? "Its no problem at all being an opium addict if you can get pods!" Until the ATF went through his door and dragged him out of his pit in an opium haze.
 
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Yeah I've only really had mild effects. I'm talking British poppies. They grow like weeds in the summer. Sorry I was a bit high when I started this thread, they don't start coming up properly until June/July/August really.

I was more wondering about the issue of mould. Did you bother drying your pods @F.U.B.A.R.?
 
I've only very recently found that Wikipedia explains very clearly all about what is going on with the decorative poppy pods that you can buy legally - they are bread for arts and crafts and not for their alkaloids.

It seems that a few years ago there was a number of vendors who cleverly / sneakily bypassed the law by exploiting this loopohole, selling alkaloid rich pods as arts and crafts pods.

I don't know of any such vendors right now.

However, even the 'arts and crafts' pods do have some 'medicinal properties' although nobody is ever going to get high from them.

"Decorative Dried Flower producer/growers and wholesalers,[6] hand pick the decorative mature seeded pods/heads with or without the stalks for use as floral decorations for visual gratification in arrangements. These are then mechanically dried at high temperatures in large kilns to render insects dead and the seeds unviable so that the harvest consists almost entirely of the dried flowered seeded pods/heads (for ease of transport, artificial stems are added afterwards, e.g. bird seed wreath making, floral arrangements and wedding boutonnières or arts/craft projects). The seeds used for this market are especially chosen for the size and shape of the mature poppy seed pod/head and not alkaloid content. Many varieties, strains, and cultivars of Papaver somniferum are in existence, and the alkaloid content can vary significantly."

en.wikipedia.org

Poppy straw - Wikipedia

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I've stored pods for years and they still work. I think the opiates within are pretty stable.

Now (end of winter) is the time to throw out the seeds if you are trying to grow them. I think it's "on the final snow" or something like that. Then they are ready to be harvested around the summer solstice. I grew them several years when I lived in mid-Atlantic USA.

Here in Germany there are plenty of poppies growing wild, but I think they might be Papaver Rhoeas and not Papaver Somniferum. The Rhoeas give me a high but it's a more sleepy one than the more euphoric high I got from Somniferum.

Does anyone know the difference between the two?
 
I still remember the first poppy high I ever had tho - really relaxed and carefree - reminded me of Errol Flynn describing his first opium den with a girl called Ting Ling. Never recreated that feeling with heroin/morphine or oxys.

Im not convinced theres any breeding done to remove opium content or baking them at higher temperatures - that would cost more money and hassle than they would get selling it. Just because a few jakey fuckers might use them to get high? That would be like removing the ladies underwear section of the freemans catalogue cos some lowlife, repugnant motherfucker might bust my..HIS..ahem..nut over it.
 
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Ismene2 said:
Im not convinced theres any breeding done to remove opium content or baking them at higher temperatures - that would cost more money and hassle than they would get selling it.
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I am.

For one thing , I can tell by the effects that recent pods I have tried have been completely different to those I had a few years ago. I have no doubt that they used to be rich in opioid alkaloids but they no longer are.

It may not be the sellers at the end of the food chain that are doing the breeding, but I can imagine that the suppliers of the end sellers do the breeding. I can imagine that these suppliers would easily have the knowledge and expertise to breed Papaver Somniferum Giganteum pods that are lower or higher in various testable opioid alkaloids. They could then legally sell the seeds of these non potent pods to various sellers of arts and crafts pods. Stating that they are bread for appearance and not opioid alkaloid content. I can easily imagine LE doing random spot checks and chemical analysis on certain sellers and suppliers of Papaver Somnieferum pods and seeds at all steps up the chain. Especially mail order internet based sellers.

This would explain why those selling pods rich in opioid alkaloids are no longer so easily found , the law has got to them. Whereas those suppliers selling pods that have very little or non existent opioid alcoloids are allowed to continue trading legally. One of the bigger sellers that I found about through word of mouth have been going for years, so it must be worthwhile for them to continue selling their legal pods..

It makes sense to me and seems perfectly feasible.
 
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