melquiades
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Psychedelic pseudo-science is really fun to say
So I was reading this thread, different drugs scenes disliking others
There was a fair amount of hate against psych users.
Please forgive me for my psychedelic noob rambling.
I also just recently finished reading "Breaking Open the Head: A Psychedelic journey into contemporary shamanism", and I was kind of annoyed by the pseudo-science there too.
I guess I feel more aware of this because of my own background in biochemistry. Even though we can walk around with the hypothesis that there are other worlds with machine elves, or spiritual landscapes, it's not really provable outside of tripping. (I'm not, however, saying that those metaphors aren't a good way to explain some of the things that we learn though?)
What we're doing is just fucking with our senses. Opening up perception! Letting the floodgates open and not filtering out everything. And, maybe, doing that allows us to notice the subtleties in our mind when we're sober?
Kinda like the static- I can notice the static if I make myself.
Is there any way we can 'reform' psychedelic thought to be more accepted by others?
(And of course, if you have better "realist" theories about psychedelic experiences, let them loose!)
So I was reading this thread, different drugs scenes disliking others
There was a fair amount of hate against psych users.
talking about "entheogens" and how I just understood the way the world works becaues of "Ego death" makes me want to puke, then take a hit of a meth and drive a crowbar though the persons eyesocket.
but I'll do a bit of LSD or MDMA for the lulz...but only the lulz/euphoria/pretty colors and not the faggotry PLUR/spritualism shit.
Also, people that consider LSD as some sort of sacrament, no, it's not. Fuck you. I've experienced "ego death" or whatever you want to call it and it was a nightmare. Why would I want to take a chemical that has so much control over me?
Personally I will do almost anything but psychedelics and their users are starting to get a bit over the top, when I go into PD they put fucked up ideas/thoughts in my head which arent real but feel so real while tripping. I used to love acid and psych's but I cant handle them anymore.
I don't like the psychedelic drug users who make claims of the "mind expansion, far out spiritual experiences, etc."
A lot of psychedelic users frustrate me with exaggerated claims of tripping's benefits, but I know that those drugs have helped me a lot to understand myself and how to interact with the world in a positive way.
It's all about the individual and how they allow the drugs to affect their likability.
Please forgive me for my psychedelic noob rambling.
I also just recently finished reading "Breaking Open the Head: A Psychedelic journey into contemporary shamanism", and I was kind of annoyed by the pseudo-science there too.
I guess I feel more aware of this because of my own background in biochemistry. Even though we can walk around with the hypothesis that there are other worlds with machine elves, or spiritual landscapes, it's not really provable outside of tripping. (I'm not, however, saying that those metaphors aren't a good way to explain some of the things that we learn though?)
What we're doing is just fucking with our senses. Opening up perception! Letting the floodgates open and not filtering out everything. And, maybe, doing that allows us to notice the subtleties in our mind when we're sober?
Kinda like the static- I can notice the static if I make myself.
Is there any way we can 'reform' psychedelic thought to be more accepted by others?
(And of course, if you have better "realist" theories about psychedelic experiences, let them loose!)