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Narrative/Visionary Trips - Had 'em? How, With What?
This may seem a silly thread start, but I've been wondering this for a while now. Especially since I've started exploring the RC world, I've noticed, like many others, that something was missing from these experiences when compared with my memories of using LSD. Many speak of the trans-personal or spiritual aspects being more present in the classics. So far in my own research, I tend to agree, but am confused by whether or not these changes are really reflections of my own self changing over time. Doing psychs in my teens and twenties seems different somehow to my mid-forties experiences. I have not had "real" LSD since the nineties, so that's one difference for sure.
Despite having done acid over a hundred times, with doses ranging up to 5 tabs, I have yet to have a "Homer Simpson" kind of trip. You know, the one where he eats the peppers and starts tripping in an Aztec themed world, complete with taking animals. I am wondering if that's a thing for anyone, or is it a TV thing; do you get into storied-like narrative trips, or at least ones that are heavily themed or based on some motif?
The closest I've come is on 4 tabs of white blotter (1992, BC, Canada -didn't know the dose, but I knew the source!) where I found myself thinking I had slipped into more of a primate and had lost the ability to speak. As the peak came on, a woman remarked that I looked "like a little monkey in that sweater." A few minutes later, I found myself rubbing my sweater, which was starting to look like fur, and then rubbed my face. When I tried to speak, I couldn't feel my mouth, but I could form and hear my words.
I'd keep checking with people if they could hear my speaking, and was constantly feeling for my mouth which seemed to not be there AT ALL.
It got so bad, and so difficult to form words without feeling my mouth and tongue working, that I gave up and just grunted around.
I found myself forgetting everything that had happened and that I had even been a speaking being before, so I just went with it and really felt like some kind of animal.
I went into the back yard and made a "fort" out of a blanket and some cedar boughs, all the while thinking that this is what I had to do in order to survive. This was the day I would build my hut, and it all seemed normal.
I stayed out there for the whole peak until I finally found myself talking. I then asked myself "what the bah was I doing out here" and headed back inside. Everyone else was laughing at me, because it had been raining, and I was muddy and soaked, but smiling and finally talking again. Needless to say, that was the end of the monkey narrative, and there was of course more detail to the trip, which I will spare you, but this did feel close to a Homer-like story. I hope this makes sense; talking about psych experiences is tricky to say the least.
So I have one main question, and a side question (and please add to that, of course) . . .
1. Which compound(s), dosage-level, or combo brings you to a narrative trip. I'm defining a narrative trip as NOT just seeing patterns and breathing surfaces, it's more transformative, based on a theme or perceived story line, where the majority of the trip has this arc you move through and is consistent.
2. Has anyone had what I described above about their mouth being gone for a few hours? This trip made me think there must be another kind of acid, but it was '92.
Thanks for reading, and hopefully participating, as I'd love to learn more about what compounds present a more together trip. Or is it just my mind was more creative back then . . . ?
Thanks Bluelighters!
This may seem a silly thread start, but I've been wondering this for a while now. Especially since I've started exploring the RC world, I've noticed, like many others, that something was missing from these experiences when compared with my memories of using LSD. Many speak of the trans-personal or spiritual aspects being more present in the classics. So far in my own research, I tend to agree, but am confused by whether or not these changes are really reflections of my own self changing over time. Doing psychs in my teens and twenties seems different somehow to my mid-forties experiences. I have not had "real" LSD since the nineties, so that's one difference for sure.
Despite having done acid over a hundred times, with doses ranging up to 5 tabs, I have yet to have a "Homer Simpson" kind of trip. You know, the one where he eats the peppers and starts tripping in an Aztec themed world, complete with taking animals. I am wondering if that's a thing for anyone, or is it a TV thing; do you get into storied-like narrative trips, or at least ones that are heavily themed or based on some motif?
The closest I've come is on 4 tabs of white blotter (1992, BC, Canada -didn't know the dose, but I knew the source!) where I found myself thinking I had slipped into more of a primate and had lost the ability to speak. As the peak came on, a woman remarked that I looked "like a little monkey in that sweater." A few minutes later, I found myself rubbing my sweater, which was starting to look like fur, and then rubbed my face. When I tried to speak, I couldn't feel my mouth, but I could form and hear my words.
I'd keep checking with people if they could hear my speaking, and was constantly feeling for my mouth which seemed to not be there AT ALL.
It got so bad, and so difficult to form words without feeling my mouth and tongue working, that I gave up and just grunted around.
I found myself forgetting everything that had happened and that I had even been a speaking being before, so I just went with it and really felt like some kind of animal.
I went into the back yard and made a "fort" out of a blanket and some cedar boughs, all the while thinking that this is what I had to do in order to survive. This was the day I would build my hut, and it all seemed normal.
I stayed out there for the whole peak until I finally found myself talking. I then asked myself "what the bah was I doing out here" and headed back inside. Everyone else was laughing at me, because it had been raining, and I was muddy and soaked, but smiling and finally talking again. Needless to say, that was the end of the monkey narrative, and there was of course more detail to the trip, which I will spare you, but this did feel close to a Homer-like story. I hope this makes sense; talking about psych experiences is tricky to say the least.
So I have one main question, and a side question (and please add to that, of course) . . .
1. Which compound(s), dosage-level, or combo brings you to a narrative trip. I'm defining a narrative trip as NOT just seeing patterns and breathing surfaces, it's more transformative, based on a theme or perceived story line, where the majority of the trip has this arc you move through and is consistent.
2. Has anyone had what I described above about their mouth being gone for a few hours? This trip made me think there must be another kind of acid, but it was '92.
Thanks for reading, and hopefully participating, as I'd love to learn more about what compounds present a more together trip. Or is it just my mind was more creative back then . . . ?
Thanks Bluelighters!
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