JohnBoy2000
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So I'd been experiencing issues with higher doses of MT 2.
However, given the dramatic improvement in life quality being type 1 skin with MT 2 use, I wasn't prepared to simply drop it completely.
And the issue might be here:
- I initially order a vial of MT 2 from some defunct supplier who probably pulled a 6 year old vial out the back of their fridge.
It was MT2 but it's potency was pathetic.
- I then ordered from canadian supplier x-peptides. 2 vials, the first vial seemed to be okay (first out of the pack, sneaky sneaky), but the second vial seemed completely bunk and unfortunately I got sunburned quite good where I hadn't with the same sun exposure on the first vial.
- Then I read a thread on the UK-muscle forum of a dude claiming China/alibaba MT2 was incomparable to western suppliers and the tan effect was ridiculous - attributable to perhaps storage or it travels badly or what, who knows?
But actual direct from China MT2 potency was vastly superior.
So I ordered from Alibaba and indeed the tan effect was flawless, never any redness or burning.
But I was using 500 mcg usually and used to get stomach cramping and nausea - and then emerged other intolerable side effects which meant my typical use was no longer viable, albeit I'd got an awesome tan as a pasty type 1 skin type - always-burns, never-tans.
So, I started night time dosing to mitigate the side effects and whilst this helped, they were still present.
I was having to knock down the dose more and more and more - 250 mcg, too high; 200 too high; 150 even - still too high (and this was night time....).
Last few days I'd being dosing 100 mcg which seemed to be the side effect threshold - some sides maybe, hardly noticeable.
BUT - moment of truth, will it work in the sun?
Or will I simply burn like I did previously with the low potency vials?
100 mcg last night - 4 hours today in the blazing heat of the sun.....
Not even a red streak,
Huge relief cause fuck it, paleness is death - it sucks, immediate passion killer etc.
It would have been horrible to have to go back to being pasty.
**
The half life comes into question - 1 hour, but it's biological effects seems to be documented as lasting 36 hours (does anyone have an explanation for why/how this is?)
MT 1 half life is a few minutes, and it's biological effects about 1 hour.
Bottom line is to me - a good source and legit potency is critical, despite the general opinion that MT2 tends to be consistent irrespective of source, to someone as sensitive to it as I am - a good source has been IMPERATIVE.
From here,
- 100 mcg is tricky to measure on the insulin syringe so, I'll be reconstituting future vials with 4 ml's of bac water vs the original 2 such that each IU is 25 mcg vs conventional 50;
- and I'll continue to play around with doses lower than 100 mcg to gauge their efficacy, 75 mcg, 50 mcg etc.
I had investigated on reddit with some users and, hair loss does seem to happen in a small number of cases, maybe with me also, maybe it's natural thinning but I doubt it cause my hair has always been super thick up until MT 2 use commenced.
Lower doses may preclude this also.
As one reddit user mentioned, "MT 2 is a very powerful chemical, that seems to get overlooked overtimes" - and my opinion is, with legit product, high doses may be less necessary that I originally considered.
That being said, users here have mentioned experiencing superior results with higher doses - is there a dose "receptor saturation" in some cases?
That's the issue when there's been no large scale trials and clinical investigation.
But to this n=1 study thus far, 100 mcg dosed the night before sun still = effective.
However, given the dramatic improvement in life quality being type 1 skin with MT 2 use, I wasn't prepared to simply drop it completely.
And the issue might be here:
- I initially order a vial of MT 2 from some defunct supplier who probably pulled a 6 year old vial out the back of their fridge.
It was MT2 but it's potency was pathetic.
- I then ordered from canadian supplier x-peptides. 2 vials, the first vial seemed to be okay (first out of the pack, sneaky sneaky), but the second vial seemed completely bunk and unfortunately I got sunburned quite good where I hadn't with the same sun exposure on the first vial.
- Then I read a thread on the UK-muscle forum of a dude claiming China/alibaba MT2 was incomparable to western suppliers and the tan effect was ridiculous - attributable to perhaps storage or it travels badly or what, who knows?
But actual direct from China MT2 potency was vastly superior.
So I ordered from Alibaba and indeed the tan effect was flawless, never any redness or burning.
But I was using 500 mcg usually and used to get stomach cramping and nausea - and then emerged other intolerable side effects which meant my typical use was no longer viable, albeit I'd got an awesome tan as a pasty type 1 skin type - always-burns, never-tans.
So, I started night time dosing to mitigate the side effects and whilst this helped, they were still present.
I was having to knock down the dose more and more and more - 250 mcg, too high; 200 too high; 150 even - still too high (and this was night time....).
Last few days I'd being dosing 100 mcg which seemed to be the side effect threshold - some sides maybe, hardly noticeable.
BUT - moment of truth, will it work in the sun?
Or will I simply burn like I did previously with the low potency vials?
100 mcg last night - 4 hours today in the blazing heat of the sun.....
Not even a red streak,
Huge relief cause fuck it, paleness is death - it sucks, immediate passion killer etc.
It would have been horrible to have to go back to being pasty.
**
The half life comes into question - 1 hour, but it's biological effects seems to be documented as lasting 36 hours (does anyone have an explanation for why/how this is?)
MT 1 half life is a few minutes, and it's biological effects about 1 hour.
Bottom line is to me - a good source and legit potency is critical, despite the general opinion that MT2 tends to be consistent irrespective of source, to someone as sensitive to it as I am - a good source has been IMPERATIVE.
From here,
- 100 mcg is tricky to measure on the insulin syringe so, I'll be reconstituting future vials with 4 ml's of bac water vs the original 2 such that each IU is 25 mcg vs conventional 50;
- and I'll continue to play around with doses lower than 100 mcg to gauge their efficacy, 75 mcg, 50 mcg etc.
I had investigated on reddit with some users and, hair loss does seem to happen in a small number of cases, maybe with me also, maybe it's natural thinning but I doubt it cause my hair has always been super thick up until MT 2 use commenced.
Lower doses may preclude this also.
As one reddit user mentioned, "MT 2 is a very powerful chemical, that seems to get overlooked overtimes" - and my opinion is, with legit product, high doses may be less necessary that I originally considered.
That being said, users here have mentioned experiencing superior results with higher doses - is there a dose "receptor saturation" in some cases?
That's the issue when there's been no large scale trials and clinical investigation.
But to this n=1 study thus far, 100 mcg dosed the night before sun still = effective.
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