Hi everybody!! New member. Read a lot of posts over the years for information. Been an on/off opiate addict for 20 years. Had to kick cold turkey many many times at Her Majestys Pleasure but now it's about time I did it myself. No real reason other than the fact that im sick of being like this. I want to get in shape.I want to go back to school.I dont want to be tied to Methadone. Its been like that for 3 years now since I started methadone. Over the years Ive always used methadone to do a quick taper to get off of Heroin.Especially if I had to travel out of the country. Id get 7 bottles of 30ml and drink a bottle a day for 3 days to let it build up and let the Heroin leave my body and then i would drink half a bottle filling it back up with water. the next day drink half a bottle filling it back up with water. on and on it would go til i was down to some miniscule amount like 0.0005ml. It worked. No real withdrawals. Had a few benzos for a week to help with sleep and some alcohol once the benzos were done and I was good.
Problem is now i've been on methadone for so many years i dont think my 7 day taper will work...lol....
ive been reading badgirlbarbies posts and it inspired me. it inspired me so much that i followed her plan...by the time she start going into acute withdrawal it was too late for me. I'm already commited to this and knowing withdrawals are comming for me makes it so much worse.
so....... i was hoping the more experienced users that have been through this can help me come up with a good plan?
I'll write down all the meds i have, then what i've taken so far and hopefully people can weigh in and help me do this the best way possible with what i got.
I really appreciate any help given because if i dont have a clear plan and wing it, the smallest ache or pain with send me doubling my dose....
Ok, so this is what i have left
Methadone: 205ml
Morphine sulphate: 15mgx600 pills
Gabapentine:300mgx1000 pills
clonazepam: 0.5mg x 10
alprazolam: ????cant find it..shit i think i through it out.ill look again later
nortryptyline hcl: 25mg x 300
Now here's my taper so far....
3 years on methadone ranging from 38ml the lowest a year ago to 80ml the highest the past year. I've been drinking 10ml's less for the past 3 months(except thursday where they watch me drink) and the past month ive been only drinking 60ml's except thursdays which again they watch me drink.
so last thursday i have to see my pharmacist to get my weekly dose that's drank there plus my 6 take home bottles. I drank 80 that day plus I had 50ml in the morning. The reason so much was that Ive been weening myself off slowly for a few months. But i need my drink first thing in the morning 7am.i cant get to the pharmacy until around 2pm so all week i save a little bit every day until thursday morning i wake up and drink some of my saved drink. I guess the 50ml+80ml + reading badgirlbarbies post pushed me over the top to cut down.
Thursday 130ml +6beers
Friday 50ml +6 beers
saturday 40ml +6 beers
sunday 35ml + 75mg morphine 6hrs later +6 beers
monday 30ml + 75mg morphine 6hrs later +6 beers
tuesday 25ml + 75mg morphine 6hrs later and another 75mg 5 hrs later +6beers
wednesdy 20ml + 75mg morphine 6hrs later and another 75mg 4 hrs later +6beers ****started feeling squeamish,distant,restless
thursday 20ml+ 75mg morphine 2hrs later and another 75mg 4 hrs later and another 75mg 8 hrs later +6 beers ***more squeamish,distant,restless
friday 19ml + 75mg morphine right away ***getting more pronounced but not sever yet. Just my head seems distant and getting that shit taste in my mouth. cant wait for beer
so i drink everyday for 3 years now. never drank before in my life but i find on methadone by 9pm it has worn off and the alcohol helps me sleep like a baby. I usually start drinking after 3 pm. usually 4 or 5 but as of Wednesday 3pm beer takes the restlessness and anxiety away. I drink 6 beers a day max and it helps right away
Now, i know i have enough methadone to make a run down to 0 with a few mls left over if i go 1ml a day and substitute morphine for methadone. even if i have to take 20 morphine's a day i do have enough for at least a months worth + a lot more if i really need more morphine. I read in a lot of these threads that switching from methadone to morphine is preferable and then tapering off morphine or going back to methadone for a 7 day taper is better.
I also read with conflicting studies about dosing from methadone to morphine is extremely difficult and no doctors know anything definitely about it but usually it goes 4-8X the methadone dose. I settled around 6x and figured id go up or down as needed.
ok, so here i am . that's me and my attempt to stop methadone. Looking for any guidance
Thank you so much,
tommy
Problem is now i've been on methadone for so many years i dont think my 7 day taper will work...lol....
ive been reading badgirlbarbies posts and it inspired me. it inspired me so much that i followed her plan...by the time she start going into acute withdrawal it was too late for me. I'm already commited to this and knowing withdrawals are comming for me makes it so much worse.
so....... i was hoping the more experienced users that have been through this can help me come up with a good plan?
I'll write down all the meds i have, then what i've taken so far and hopefully people can weigh in and help me do this the best way possible with what i got.
I really appreciate any help given because if i dont have a clear plan and wing it, the smallest ache or pain with send me doubling my dose....
Ok, so this is what i have left
Methadone: 205ml
Morphine sulphate: 15mgx600 pills
Gabapentine:300mgx1000 pills
clonazepam: 0.5mg x 10
alprazolam: ????cant find it..shit i think i through it out.ill look again later
nortryptyline hcl: 25mg x 300
Now here's my taper so far....
3 years on methadone ranging from 38ml the lowest a year ago to 80ml the highest the past year. I've been drinking 10ml's less for the past 3 months(except thursday where they watch me drink) and the past month ive been only drinking 60ml's except thursdays which again they watch me drink.
so last thursday i have to see my pharmacist to get my weekly dose that's drank there plus my 6 take home bottles. I drank 80 that day plus I had 50ml in the morning. The reason so much was that Ive been weening myself off slowly for a few months. But i need my drink first thing in the morning 7am.i cant get to the pharmacy until around 2pm so all week i save a little bit every day until thursday morning i wake up and drink some of my saved drink. I guess the 50ml+80ml + reading badgirlbarbies post pushed me over the top to cut down.
Thursday 130ml +6beers
Friday 50ml +6 beers
saturday 40ml +6 beers
sunday 35ml + 75mg morphine 6hrs later +6 beers
monday 30ml + 75mg morphine 6hrs later +6 beers
tuesday 25ml + 75mg morphine 6hrs later and another 75mg 5 hrs later +6beers
wednesdy 20ml + 75mg morphine 6hrs later and another 75mg 4 hrs later +6beers ****started feeling squeamish,distant,restless
thursday 20ml+ 75mg morphine 2hrs later and another 75mg 4 hrs later and another 75mg 8 hrs later +6 beers ***more squeamish,distant,restless
friday 19ml + 75mg morphine right away ***getting more pronounced but not sever yet. Just my head seems distant and getting that shit taste in my mouth. cant wait for beer
so i drink everyday for 3 years now. never drank before in my life but i find on methadone by 9pm it has worn off and the alcohol helps me sleep like a baby. I usually start drinking after 3 pm. usually 4 or 5 but as of Wednesday 3pm beer takes the restlessness and anxiety away. I drink 6 beers a day max and it helps right away
Now, i know i have enough methadone to make a run down to 0 with a few mls left over if i go 1ml a day and substitute morphine for methadone. even if i have to take 20 morphine's a day i do have enough for at least a months worth + a lot more if i really need more morphine. I read in a lot of these threads that switching from methadone to morphine is preferable and then tapering off morphine or going back to methadone for a 7 day taper is better.
I also read with conflicting studies about dosing from methadone to morphine is extremely difficult and no doctors know anything definitely about it but usually it goes 4-8X the methadone dose. I settled around 6x and figured id go up or down as needed.
ok, so here i am . that's me and my attempt to stop methadone. Looking for any guidance
Thank you so much,
tommy