crOOk
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Heyho,
just thought I'd add my 2 cents on this substance, since there isn't a whole lot of talk about recreational use from people who have not been on it as a means for substituting heroin.
Since Methadone is an opiate and opiates have a tendency to not only build a quantitative tolerance, but also change their qualitative effects with weaker opioids becoming next to useless over time, I'd best start off by saying some things about my past experience with this class of drugs.
Well, past experience with opiates is plenty, but they never really were my thing. I mostly take them against chronic pain in order to keep my NSAR doses as low as possible for the sake of health.
There have been extended periods north of half a year during which I dosed weaker opiates like Tilidin on a daily basis, but without really abusing them usually. With having neurodermatitis the high just doesn't weigh in heavy enough against the side effects. I also get colics that have me screaming and whimmering, praying and puking, hyperventilating and passing out in pain every now and then, so I take opiates as little as possible these days.
I metabolize Tramadol really well and along with oxycodone it probably will always remain my favourite opiate. I kid you not. It may not have the same analgesic qualities as others, but it's all the more recreational for me. Besides, the analgesic qualities of opiates taken on their own really only kick in at a level that renders me unfit to even operate a television set's remote control.
Every few years or so I do something stupid like pour boiling water over my hand or hurt myself in some other way. Since German doctors are very stingy with opiates, this is usually when I get some hydromorphone for my friend's bottomless stash and will mainline it. I never found the rush of heroin and hydromorphone to be in any way desirable. It's a rush for sure, but I might as well shoot caffeine which would is equally unpleasant.
I generally get very irritable on these ceiling opiate doses. Like being awoken by someone in the morning over and over and over when I would really much rather stay in bed. Nofun in being around me whenI'm in that state.
So yeah, recreational use is pretty much off the table these days, but I will still try any chemical that comes my and has yet to have entered my body. And guess what, the other day an old friend came to visit who got a 40mg "methaddict" wafer (That's the name of th medication, I shit you not).
Since I have no tolerance at the moment, 40mg seemed a bit heavy, so I split the 40mg in two, took the larger half sublingually and kept it in my mouth until all bitterness and burning faded before swallowing it.
I didn't take the time, but it did kick in within a couple of hours. It was the first day in 20 years that there were no antihistamines in the house and the itch was almost unbearable. Never again would I take it without an antihistamine. While heroin and hydromorphone carry no recreational value AT ALL for me (in fact I get sick just thinking about the smell of heroin), this one felt surprisingly pleasant, taking the pruritus out of the equation. I did have 75mg Diclofenac along with it, so it's not owed to the Methadone alone that my pain was fully relieved.
As I am a very slow metabolizer of heroin and hydromorphone the effects off Metadone, too, lingered on throughout the next day. At no point was there any irritability as is usually attributed to me taking large doses of some other opiates.
20mg served me really well, I wouldn't have wanted to take the entire 40mg, but 25-30mg would have probably been ideal.
So in short, this one definitely would be added to my go-to opiates for those rare occasions every few years when I suffer extreme pain (like burns). That list would look something like Oxycodone>Methadone>Heroin>Hydromorphone>...
Be safe!
just thought I'd add my 2 cents on this substance, since there isn't a whole lot of talk about recreational use from people who have not been on it as a means for substituting heroin.
Since Methadone is an opiate and opiates have a tendency to not only build a quantitative tolerance, but also change their qualitative effects with weaker opioids becoming next to useless over time, I'd best start off by saying some things about my past experience with this class of drugs.
Well, past experience with opiates is plenty, but they never really were my thing. I mostly take them against chronic pain in order to keep my NSAR doses as low as possible for the sake of health.
There have been extended periods north of half a year during which I dosed weaker opiates like Tilidin on a daily basis, but without really abusing them usually. With having neurodermatitis the high just doesn't weigh in heavy enough against the side effects. I also get colics that have me screaming and whimmering, praying and puking, hyperventilating and passing out in pain every now and then, so I take opiates as little as possible these days.
I metabolize Tramadol really well and along with oxycodone it probably will always remain my favourite opiate. I kid you not. It may not have the same analgesic qualities as others, but it's all the more recreational for me. Besides, the analgesic qualities of opiates taken on their own really only kick in at a level that renders me unfit to even operate a television set's remote control.
Every few years or so I do something stupid like pour boiling water over my hand or hurt myself in some other way. Since German doctors are very stingy with opiates, this is usually when I get some hydromorphone for my friend's bottomless stash and will mainline it. I never found the rush of heroin and hydromorphone to be in any way desirable. It's a rush for sure, but I might as well shoot caffeine which would is equally unpleasant.
I generally get very irritable on these ceiling opiate doses. Like being awoken by someone in the morning over and over and over when I would really much rather stay in bed. Nofun in being around me whenI'm in that state.
So yeah, recreational use is pretty much off the table these days, but I will still try any chemical that comes my and has yet to have entered my body. And guess what, the other day an old friend came to visit who got a 40mg "methaddict" wafer (That's the name of th medication, I shit you not).
Since I have no tolerance at the moment, 40mg seemed a bit heavy, so I split the 40mg in two, took the larger half sublingually and kept it in my mouth until all bitterness and burning faded before swallowing it.
I didn't take the time, but it did kick in within a couple of hours. It was the first day in 20 years that there were no antihistamines in the house and the itch was almost unbearable. Never again would I take it without an antihistamine. While heroin and hydromorphone carry no recreational value AT ALL for me (in fact I get sick just thinking about the smell of heroin), this one felt surprisingly pleasant, taking the pruritus out of the equation. I did have 75mg Diclofenac along with it, so it's not owed to the Methadone alone that my pain was fully relieved.
As I am a very slow metabolizer of heroin and hydromorphone the effects off Metadone, too, lingered on throughout the next day. At no point was there any irritability as is usually attributed to me taking large doses of some other opiates.
20mg served me really well, I wouldn't have wanted to take the entire 40mg, but 25-30mg would have probably been ideal.
So in short, this one definitely would be added to my go-to opiates for those rare occasions every few years when I suffer extreme pain (like burns). That list would look something like Oxycodone>Methadone>Heroin>Hydromorphone>...
Be safe!
