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Mephedrone - a good alternative to MDMA? Is it less neurotoxic?

BluLait

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I have never tried mephedrone but have a fair amount of experience with MDMA.

I have a few questions to those who could help me out:

How similar is mephedrone to MDMA? Do you get that king of the world feeling I love so much? Do you get the beautiful visuals (forests, mountains, and objects that you have seen so many times before and are just plain, look incredibly beautiful and epic on mdma)? Do you get some of those trips where you just feel connected and in love with anything and everything in the world and it's all just so awesome?

That's the kind of comparison I'm looking for. Reading trip reports doesn't really help much.

And most importantly, is mephedrone less neurotoxic than MDMA?
I am currently using MDMA once every 1-2 months, but sometimes I'll even take a 4 month break, just so it's safer.

How about doing something like alternating between MDMA and mephedrone. Like using mephedrone this month, and MDMA next month, and so on. Would that be better for your brain than just doing MDMA every 30 days?

Any other comparison/info on mephedrone that you could give me would be awesome. ^_^ thx.
 
Mephedrone is somewhat similar to mdma, but it's not really an alternative to it. It's a completely different substance, a drug for itself. Yes, you'll get that loved up feeling but it's not like the MDMA love, but rather controlable. Some people including myself, enjoy this change (you don't have to worry you'll do something dumb). I don't know about the visuals though, I have always used it during night-time (weird now that I think of it), but I can confirm that it does have some visual qualities (mostly blurr, but it's something). You'll feel awesome about yourself, sure, maybe even a bit invincible and arrogant (although mildly), but don't expect any "I love the whole world" kind of trips. The trip is more centered on the pleasure that you're experiencing at the moment, and less about thinking about "the love" and "the peace", although you're probably going to like your buddies (or whoever you're doing it with) a hell of a lot more.:p

I don't really know how neurotoxic it is, since there is little research data on the substance. And yeah, watch out, it's a bit habbit forming and moreish.
 
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MDMA > MEPHE

MD is a better value for money lasts longer, mephe is short bursts of intense highs but you can constantly redose with mephe making it an expensive night whereas with mdma you should stick to a set amount.

Also, mephe is a dirtier drug imo it's extremely addictive and has harder comedowns which would suggest a harder effect on the body.
(in a nutshell)
 
I just feel really lucky all the time on MDMA. I feel so lucky just to be alive in this time and place in the world... The luckiest person that has ever lived. All this when I could have been dead or haven't even been born. Or have lived in a crappy village in Africa and eaten by a lion. I always tell this to the people I'm rolling with. Some of them think I'm fucking crazy.

Also the party that I'm at just feels like the greatest party in the universe. A celebration of life itself. A party that was thrown by the universe itself. Because we are the universe, the universe is in us. The atoms we are made of came out of a supernova billions of years ago. Atoms that were made carbon by nuclear fusion. Atoms which were initially 75% hydrogen and 25% helium. Atoms that clumped together under the force of gravity to create a star. And it's these atoms, that have somehow caught life. These atoms that are celebrating the life they have been given either by a divine force or purely by chance, whatever it is, it is amazing. Also depends on the music of course, the music totally changes the trips I get from MDMA.

For example: last time I rolled, I spent about half an hour in sheer panick just running outside from what I though were undercover cops that were onto me (it's funny cause I only had like 0.1g mdma and 0.5g weed on me). I thought they were splitting up in the street, each one going a different way to try and corner me in the end. I was in a village or something so I ended up on a dirt road and just hid next to a tree with my friend for 15 minutes after which I realized what I was doing and I said to myself this can't happen, it will ruin my roll. I then had this awesome feeling where I just said to myself: "out of all the days they choose to arrest me, they chose the wrong day" right then and there I felt like the luckiest person in the world, also invincible too. The cops had no chance to get me.

I went back to the party and when I got there, there was a jungle house track being played. This instantly gave me a jungle hunting trip. Imagine it like this: the party was where the chase was taking place and I was the zebra and the undercover cops (who by the way, are so fucking obvious it amazes me how stupid they are) were the lions.

But no, wait, I was no ordinary zebra. I was an invincible superstar stellar zebra with fucking lazers and shit. What the fuck am I saying? I was a zebra-god. I just looked them right in the eye, they were looking back at me, and I just gestured "NO" with my hands. "NO" as in: you're never ever going to catch me because I'm smarter/better/faster than you could even imagine. Just try it and see what happens you fucking stupid lions!
And the music was still going, and it was so intense, there was the chase, and the super zebra was winning. After that, I just felt like a superstar the whole night. Of course, the superstar trip wasn't as good as my first trip. My first trip was where instead of feeling like a superstar, I felt like a god and that this world and all of the people in it were there for me. Crazy shit anyway.

From hell to heaven, in an instant. Also, the weed I had smoked contributed to the crazy paranoid feelings where I just had fucking panick attacks like never before. I thought the arrest was imminent so I ran like a crazy fucker from a bunch of random people who probably weren't even undercover cops. The guys inside were however, legit undercover cops.

Is mephedrone is less psychedelic than the above shit?
 
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BluLait said:
I just feel really lucky all the time on MDMA. I feel so lucky just to be alive in this time and place in the world... The luckiest person that has ever lived. All this when I could have been dead or haven't even been born. Or have lived in a crappy village in Africa and eaten by a lion. I always tell this to the people I'm rolling with. Some of them think I'm fucking crazy.

Also the party that I'm at just feels like the greatest party in the universe. A celebration of life itself. A party that was thrown by the universe itself. Because we are the universe, the universe is in us. The atoms we are made of came out of a supernova billions of years ago. Atoms that were made carbon by nuclear fusion. Atoms which were initially 75% hydrogen and 25% helium. Atoms that clumped together under the force of gravity to create a star. And it's these atoms, that have somehow caught life. These atoms that are celebrating the life they have been given either by a divine force or purely by chance, whatever it is, it is amazing. Also depends on the music of course, the music totally changes the trips I get from MDMA.

For example: last time I rolled, I spent about half an hour in sheer panick just running outside from what I though were undercover cops that were onto me (it's funny cause I only had like 0.1g mdma and 0.5g weed on me). I thought they were splitting up in the street, each one going a different way to try and corner me in the end. I was in a village or something so I ended up on a dirt road and just hid next to a tree with my friend for 15 minutes after which I realized what I was doing and I said to myself this can't happen, it will ruin my roll. I then had this awesome feeling where I just said to myself: "out of all the days they choose to arrest me, they chose the wrong day" right then and there I felt like the luckiest person in the world, also invincible too. The cops had no chance to get me.

I went back to the party and when I got there, there was a jungle house track being played. This instantly gave me a jungle hunting trip. Imagine it like this: the party was where the chase was taking place and I was the zebra and the undercover cops (who by the way, are so fucking obvious it amazes me how stupid they are) were the lions.

But no, wait, I was no ordinary zebra. I was an invincible superstar stellar zebra with fucking lazers and shit. What the fuck am I saying? I was a zebra-god. I just looked them right in the eye, they were looking back at me, and I just gestured "NO" with my hands. "NO" as in: you're never ever going to catch me because I'm smarter/better/faster than you could even imagine. Just try it and see what happens you fucking stupid lions!
And the music was still going, and it was so intense, there was the chase, and the super zebra was winning. After that, I just felt like a superstar the whole night. Of course, the superstar trip wasn't as good as my first trip. My first trip was where instead of feeling like a superstar, I felt like a god and that this world and all of the people in it were there for me. Crazy shit anyway.

From hell to heaven, in an instant. Also, the weed I had smoked contributed to the crazy paranoid feelings where I just had fucking panick attacks like never before. I thought the arrest was imminent so I ran like a crazy fucker from a bunch of random people who probably weren't even undercover cops. The guys inside were however, legit undercover cops.

Is mephedrone is less psychedelic than the above shit?
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This is porn to me.
 
PlurPsyed said:
I recommend methylone if you're looking for an mdma like high
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Yeah, that's why I was sold methylone as MDMA, as they are similar. But methylone makes you hallucinate a lot and it makes you gurn like fuck as well as upper neck and back tension. Didn't like it imo I took it because I still had another 3 hours of a rave left and my md effects were wearing off and I was desperate.
 
ForwardMotions said:
Yeah, that's why I was sold methylone as MDMA, as they are similar. But methylone makes you hallucinate a lot and it makes you gurn like fuck as well as upper neck and back tension. Didn't like it imo I took it because I still had another 3 hours of a rave left and my md effects were wearing off and I was desperate.
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I dunno, I've done a fair share of methylone and never really got any serious visuals
 
PlurPsyed said:
I dunno, I've done a fair share of methylone and never really got any serious visuals
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My friend started hallucinating that peoples faces turned into lion heads.

I hallucinated that my friend looked like a meth addict and peoples faces started to morph in.

But my other friend only had slight hallucinations, the face morphing like I did.

The girl who got the lion heads it was her first time taking any sort of hard drug so maybe thats why :p

Also, no racial, but looking at chinese/black people they looked like demons and it was quite scary but I knew it was just a hallucination.

Maybe what we got wasnt methalone then? I could only tell from the look of it and the god awful taste - much worse than md!
 
ForwardMotions said:
My friend started hallucinating that peoples faces turned into lion heads.

I hallucinated that my friend looked like a meth addict and peoples faces started to morph in.

But my other friend only had slight hallucinations, the face morphing like I did.

The girl who got the lion heads it was her first time taking any sort of hard drug so maybe thats why :p

Also, no racial, but looking at chinese/black people they looked like demons and it was quite scary but I knew it was just a hallucination.

Maybe what we got wasnt methalone then? I could only tell from the look of it and the god awful taste - much worse than md!
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yeah, no, dude, that doesn't sound like M1 at all
 
Thank god we don't have black or asian people in my country! Phew!

Methylone is just as bad as MDMA, as it depletes serotonin.

I want a drug that mimmicks serotonin/dopamine/noradrenaline (a fake) or a reuptake inhibitor, not a releaser like MDMA or amphetamines are.

Cocaine is on the top of my list, but that shit is waaaaaaaaaaay too expensive for a poor fucker like me :)
 
There's things like Amitriptylyne which is a noraadrenaline and serotonin reuptaker, but it has no property's for getting high
 
My peak mdma experiences were epic, profound, and unforgettable, but mephedrone is FUN, wears off more quickly, and makes me hornier. Mdma is better for dancing the night away with colored lights, booming techno, and other sexy ravers on some kind of special occasion, but if I could have unlimited supplies of either, I'd choose mephedrone. I like addictive stimulants. Mephedrone's comedown is less miserable than coke's.
 
Drone is the most garbarge unenjoyable shit i ever put in my body nothing about it is enjoyable. Its shit ive done lots of drugs and a whole lot of mdma and drone does not compare drone is so toxic and damaging plus the high is trash. If someone honestly enjoys drone they must be trash.

Real mdma is pefected and its been known as a truly magic drug.
Life changing and gives great effects to mind and soul, drone equals opposite.

Whole problem with drug qualty these days is desperate or dummies accept fake drugs in place of real drugs thats actually have effects worth taking whether for recreational or life changing positive therapeutic effects.

Im blessed that i experienced mdma before what the scene became what it is.


This i why we have real fucking zombies on the news these days.........
Do you want real gold or shitty fake gold........drugs go the same way get your mind right people.
 
Mephedrone has more in common with classical stimulants than it does with mdma and may not be your cup of tea, but not everyone who likes it "must be trash." Think about it. Thanks for sharing.
 
Yes your right i should not have said anybody who honestly enjoys drone must be trash.

I apoligize for that i think its the effects it gave me and all my friends were so evil i could not see why anybody would honestly enjoy it unless they were in the mind set that its better than nothing.

First time i had it i bought it as mdma than after the effects i got a new test kit then started dosing it based on exerienced drone users and still after few different tries on different dosage still scary effects even on very mild dose.

So if people out there believe its truely enjoyable to them i just cant understand.
 
Mephedrone is more straight recreational where as MDMA is a deeper more therapeutic or spiritual thing or however one might put it. Drone seems more egotistic imo perhaps more like coke - there is debate how neurotoxic MD really is and I don't think one could answer your question without a lot more research - there are other dangers beyond neurotoxic of course
 
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