Mental Kenny, One Week in Intensive Care, Almost Dead, Diphenidine, Warning-Achtung!!

[hexagram]

in short, fuck diph. And with the ket drought and mxe ban looming, looks like it's going to be a while til we get some decent nmda antagonism

 

[foolsgold]

getting 5g of mxe in for christmas

 

[Ceres]

i miss legal mxe so badly. not had mxe in a year

 

[felix]

i miss legal mxe so badly. not had mxe in a year

Well, what's illegal in some places is legal in others, and this time of year the avalanche of consumerist garbage that is being sent around the globe is hardly likely to cause any harassed postal workers to give a flying fuck about any slim and nondescript envelopes from *snip* places. Now is probably as good a time as any to fill yer boots.

 

[Mental Kenny]

Thanks Kate for the kind message, very much appreciated.

Don't get me wrong I never blamed the Diph entirely for what happened to me, it was the result of foolish and irresponsible cocktail of drugs, I'm sure the uppers, opiates and benzos alone would have put a normal person in the hospital on their own, as someone else said, the diphenidine was just the rotten cherry on the cake. But yes, it was full of toxic impurities, which further excacerbated my health issues.

It's not me saying it, it's the doctors, according to them my kindeys almost went bye bye due to the impurities, mind, they might be wrong.

On thursday I should see my drug worker, will ask him for test data.

 

[Si Dread]

Best of luck with that & with a continued improvement Kenny, wouldn't wish this on anyone mate

Stay positive, the human body is an incredible resourceful thing & recovers from the most deleterious shit!

 

[doppelgänger1]

It's not me saying it, it's the doctors, according to them my kindeys almost went bye bye due to the impurities, mind, they might be wrong.

What makes you think doctors know anything about unknown impurities and their nephrotoxicity of obscure internet drugs ? As if there was any doctor who can even interpret an NRM.

 

[Ceres]

Yeah what would these trained specialists with their analytical equipment and years of education and practice possibly know?

 

[crOOk]

What makes you think doctors know anything about unknown impurities and their nephrotoxicity of obscure internet drugs ? As if there was any doctor who can even interpret an NRM.

Haha glad the rest was edited out, was gonna comment.

There are lots of ordinary doctors out there who can't interpret an NRM, but lots of people in clinical research and those interested in physiology, pharmacology or biochemistry often can interpret an NMR. Not sure how you get the idea that they'd be less qualified to do so than anybody else. Less than chemists, sure, but other than that, who do you think writes books about toxicology? Coroners and forensic medics were still doctors last time I checked, at least they were here in Germany. How do you know they aren't consulted in scenarios like these? They usually are. However it was probably the clinicians who explained what happened.

I am sceptical just like you as I have very clearly stated in my last post, but you come off as a tad arrogant to me, so I didn't want to leave those things unsaid. Also, I'm curious how much you know about nephrophysiology and -pathology to be a better judge than an internist (possibly specialized in nephrology) as to what caused this reaction? My guess would be it was rhabdomyolysis, but we don't even have the creatine kinase activity at the time of admittance.

It's a shame Kenny hasn't reacted to my request. We should really get ahold of all the clinical findings to find out what could have happened there. This includes the NMR results if that's possible. The clinical stuff has to be handed out to him anyway. If we are lucky someone in the clinic writes a case report. That would be released within the next couple of months.

Like I said, RM due to the ethylphenidate and diphenidine combo sounds most plausible. It seems pretty absurd to put blame just on the diphenidine, let alone the impurities in this sample of the batch. Considering the ED50 of ethylphenidate it seems unlikely that it wasn't causing any issues. The sole fact that it dehydrates you so badly should be enough to figure out 500mg of this stimulant don't go by the kidneys unnoticed.

Yeah what would these trained specialists with their analytical equipment and years of education and practice possibly know?

Ha, my *snip*. Just saw that. :D

 

[Acid4Blood]

Fuckin hell man. Nasty experience! So glad u pulled through.
Best of luck with the benzo taper! (& that blonde nurse!)

 

[THE_REAL_OBLIVION]

Okay, then, explained why they don't fuck all. I had convinced myself it was one drop=1ml.

That makes sense, it's a weak dose, that's why I still feel WDs from kratom and I'm basically holding the benzo WDs, barely.

They did script me lorazepam for bedtime, loving that, long half life I still feel it in the morning.

I never liked bromazepam. Even at higher doses it's just a bit shite.

I'm glad all is fine with you, but don't you trash Lectopam (brand name for bromaz in canada). I'm considering switching my 20mg script of valium to 3x6mg greens (bromazepam has only 2 dosages...the 3mg pills suck unless you got a lot I'll give you that).

Try MXM. Although I'm saying that but I can't buy MXM, it's on a site i'm a member of, but since i'm not european my way to pay for it is close to nil (e-wallet and bitcoin, meh)

 

[StreetHalo91]

Try MXM. Although I'm saying that but I can't buy MXM, it's on a site i'm a member of, but since i'm not european my way to pay for it is close to nil (e-wallet and bitcoin, meh)

Top idea, no better way to recover from overdosing on a new research chemical dissociative than to bang a load of another new research chemical dissociative even less is known about.

 

[THE_REAL_OBLIVION]

My message was a HR post believe it or not. The Diphenidine and diphenidine analogs all sound like bad news. I'm telling this to other people than OP, methoxmetamine is as close to MXE one could be. And MXE has a very optimal safety profile, the only people who had trouble with it seems like they dosed randomly, too much cos they're so hardcore etc. PCP powder was common in the 90's and 2000's in my area of the country and I would go on a limb and say that the pcp was less harmful than the diphenidine and analogs.

 

[bogman]

Best of luck MK, take care of yourself

 

[Erikmen]

My message was a HR post believe it or not. The Diphenidine and diphenidine analogs all sound like bad news. I'm telling this to other people than OP, methoxmetamine is as close to MXE one could be. And MXE has a very optimal safety profile, the only people who had trouble with it seems like they dosed randomly, too much cos they're so hardcore etc. PCP powder was common in the 90's and 2000's in my area of the country and I would go on a limb and say that the pcp was less harmful than the diphenidine and analogs.

This!!