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Brainfucked

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Im on month 3 of MDMA recovery and I'm not close to being half way there. I was stupid enough to do it 4 times in a week. I knew it wouldnt be good for my brain but i didnt realise it would last this long its horrible. Would doing mushrooms make me even worse? Also when I am fully recovered how long should I wait to do MDMA again? Any replies will be greatly appreciated
 
thought about creating a similar thread a while back - would be interesting to get some more opinions about this.

I think any drugs which relies on serotonin for its effects can be risky. this will include most empathogens and psychedelics, including mushrooms. Psychedelics can also be a problem for some with DP/ DR as a trip can definitely worsen these symptoms. There's an argument that a low dose trip might be able to have a positive effect on someone with abuse symptoms, but the risks are obvious and should be weighed up. I would personally wait until all anxiety has cleared before tripping with higher doses. I think opiates and possibly ketamine (although K also has a minor effect on serotonin, I think) would be less "damaging", unless they are abused of course, but that's just a guess.

I would personally stay away from weed as well. Based on the way it effects me atm, it isn't something my body wants. It has a weird psychelic feel these days, and makes me get paranoid and twitch constantly. Not a nice feeling at all. Test it out and draw your own conclusions if you want - but best skip it imo.

I lot of people seem to be okay with getting drunk once in a while, since it helps the reintegrate socially after traumatic post-mdma-abuse experiences. I even do this from time to time and find it to be a good social lubricant even in these circumstances. It's very difficult for me to socialise without - which means there is abuse potential. A lot of people, such as myself, have kept up their smoking habits (been on and off for the past few months - hard to quit when your mood see-saws). I have a feeling smoking and drinking, despite being legal and available, both have a negative effect on recovery, but I can't back this or any of my other opinions up with much evidence. I remember reading somewhere that head injury victims who continue to drink during the first year of recovery, do not recover to the same extent. This may involve daily consumption rather than occasional, but it's best with these things to err on the side of caution.

More important than finding some new drug to fill the enormous void left by MDMA and the come down, is to figure out what caused you to indulge in the way you did in the first place. This goes for me and most people in this situation (obviously excluding the unlucky few who get screwed up on a pill or two). Despite not enjoying weed anymore, I spent a good` 2-3 months initially smoking weed 2-3 times a week just because I needed something to alter my consciousness, which may well have affected my recovery. It's key that people who have a tendency to go too far figure what the root cause of this is, otherwise you will always be in risk of bringing back old symptoms or replacing MDMA abuse with some other kind of abuse.

Good luck OP
 
You will notice your recovery so much more better if you don't do drugs, especially weed.

If you really care about getting better, get off everything, drink socially don't get hammered.


Sorry to be a bit blunt here but its really as simple as that, recovery will be heaps easier and you will feel so much more fresh in the process.
 
From personal experience i had 8 months of very nasty DP/DR/Anxiety triggered by bunk "Molly"- MDMA and analogues are TERRIBLE I took real MDMA six months after I recovered and had a 3 week period of nasty nasty anxiety.

During my first recovery, ethanol was the only thing that helped. I did not take any substance other than booze.

Now that I am fully recovered, Ethanol is fine, weed is fine, coke and rx Stims are risky as they can create comedown like problems but I haven't had any real problems outside of moderate comedown symptoms the next day. Never going near MDMA again.

This is all ancedotal. Sobriety is your best bet.

Edit: stay away from caffeine during your recovery
 
I read that mushrooms don't deplete serotonin so wouldn't that make it okay? And up until my last roll I was a heavy weed smoker 2-3gram a day. I haven't smoked it since as it just makes me feel awful
 
Dpd mnk92- the root to the problem is that I love psychedelics. The euphoria and total bliss is unreal. The thought of mushrooms and LSD ect. Makes me want to cry. I hate being sober life shouldn't be this way. MDMA really needs respecting though. I've had some mad benders on drugs but 4 days doing MDMA has majorly messed me up. I'm gonna stay clear of it for at least a couple of years for the fear of bringing it back again. I'm going to respect my brain from now on. A few hours is not worth messing your brain up for this amount of time I was stupid but you learn from your mistakes.
 
Dpd mnk92- the root to the problem is that I love psychedelics. The euphoria and total bliss is unreal. The thought of mushrooms and LSD ect. Makes me want to cry. I hate being sober life shouldn't be this way. MDMA really needs respecting though. I've had some mad benders on drugs but 4 days doing MDMA has majorly messed me up. I'm gonna stay clear of it for at least a couple of years for the fear of bringing it back again. I'm going to respect my brain from now on. A few hours is not worth messing your brain up for this amount of time I was stupid but you learn from your mistakes.

i'm sure you have already figured this out, but it seems like the root of the problem is two-pronged - you love psychedelics and, in your words, you "hate bring sober". Now would be a good time to learn how to deal with the mundanity of sober life - being active and eating good food helps with this a lot. Psychedelics are a wonderful tool that can improve your sober life if used in moderation, but when used incorrectly to replace or escape sobriety, bad things generally happen.

If you give mushrooms a try, make sure you dose cautiously and don't start tripping too frequently. You are still recovering and the shitty side effects of this experience can lead certain people to try to escape their problems with other drugs. Well done on making the sensible decision to cut out out Mdxx drugs.
 
I am of the belief that long term comedowns are directly linked to anxiety and stress on the brain. Why would you risk stressing your brain out more by fucking with more drugs?

A comedown is your brain crying out for you to knock it out. If you are only concerned about hating being sober you probably shouldn't be taking drugs in the first place...
 
I am of the belief that long term comedowns are directly linked to anxiety and stress on the brain. Why would you risk stressing your brain out more by fucking with more drugs?

A comedown is your brain crying out for you to knock it out. If you are only concerned about hating being sober you probably shouldn't be taking drugs in the first place...
This ten thousand times over
There is no reason that without heavy abuse that long term comedowns should be caused by physiological reasons.
Abstain from drugs, exercise, and learn to see the beauty in life without drugs
 
I am of the belief that long term comedowns are directly linked to anxiety and stress on the brain. Why would you risk stressing your brain out more by fucking with more drugs?

A comedown is your brain crying out for you to knock it out. If you are only concerned about hating being sober you probably shouldn't be taking drugs in the first place...

After recovering back to 100%, actually feel better then ever, in just 4 weeks from 4g of MDMA over 4 consecutive days, this is exactly what I learned.
 
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