Thornevald
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Hi, first of all I wanted to apologize if my post ended up beeing too long. I do MDMA since about 2 years, and in those 2 years I took MDMA in approximately 12 ocassions (pretty much always separated by 2 or more months). In all those ocassions I never took more than 1 pill and a half, or 200mg if it came in crystal form.
In my not so deep experience with the drug, I came to realize that, when the drug kicks in, we can divide people into two groups: the group that do just fine, and the "oh shit I'm gonna die" group. I know everyone experienced it at least once, but there are some people (like me) that have a tendency to fall in the second group, unfortunately. I googled about it, and it appears that I'm not alone (in fact, it appears that there are a *LOT* of people in this group, much more than I expected).
I wanted to talk about the last 3 times I took MDMA, which is related to the above.
The first one, I took alpha-lipoic acid and vitamin C for preloading. I took 125mg of MDMA. It went all smooth for the first 30-40 minutes, and then all of the sudden BOOOM, it was like a f*cking ninja kicked me in the chin. I started to feel very desoriented, and the familiar feeling of "oh my f*cking shit I'm gonna die" came in. It was very turbulent, and I ended up vomiting (first time it happened to me while on MDMA, also first time I took 125mg at once). After that, I felt great, and I had one of the best nights I can remember. 2-3 hours later I redosed aprox. 30mg, and everything went ok, I didn't feel nausea or anything.
The second one, I took alpha-lipoic acid and Omeprazole (for my stomach). This time I took 100mg MDMA, but I didn't have a good time, because I was very anxious about not vomiting. I didn't vomit, but the whole time I felt like I had a brick in my stomach. I recognize that this may have been due to me beeing so anxious and paranoid, but how can I know for certain? Couldn't it be that I got more "sensitive" to MDMA?
That time I left early and went home, I continued to feel very nauseous and I couldn't sleep, so I tried to induce vomit to put an end to that, but I couldn't.
The third one, I took alpha-lipoic acid, Vitamin E, and Metoclopramide (for nausea and vomits), and 0.25mg of Alprazolam (an anxiolitic). I took 100mg of MDMA. Again, I didn't vomit, but an hour or so later my blood pressure dropped, my legs started to shake and I had to go outside for a while to recover. After that, I felt again like if I had a brick in my stomach, very tired (this probably was because I have a part-time jod and also go to college, and I was really tired, I don't think I can blame MDMA for this), and with strange body temperature shifts (I felt cold, so I put my jacket on, then I felt hot, so I took it off, and again and again like 3 or 4 times). This temperature thing happened to me only once or twice before, and it was very weird. I never felt physically bad when it happened, it was just... odd. I didn't quite understood why it happened, and why it didn't happen to other people.
This time, the brick-in-the-stomach feeling went away by itself when I got home (which gives me a clue that this could be purelly psychological).
So thats my story. I recognize that I'm a bit paranoid and I worry a bit too much about things, my friends always say to me this, but what I tell them is that I'm trying to approach this thing as "scientifically" as I can. To begin with, where is the line between psychologically induced physical discomfort, and *real* physical discomfort? and maybe equally important, what can I (or my friends at the "oh shit I'm gonna die" group) do to alleviate this? Omeprazole and Metoclopramide didn't seem to solve my issue (or maybe I didn't take enough), so what else there is? I was thinking of dividing my dose and taking 3/4 first, and half an hour later the rest, but I don't know how this would affect my roll.
Some facts that I forgot to tell:
- The MDMA I took those 3 times was tested.
- When I redose, I never feel physically bad like when the drug first kicks. Probably because I redose with a smaller amount?
- The first time I took MDMA, I hadn't read anything about it, so I didn't had any kind of bias (positive or negative), and of course I didn't know what the "kick" was. Nevertheless, I felt it, not super strong, but my blood pressure dropped a bit, it scared me a little, and I had to chill out for 5 minutes. Then everything went smooth. What I want to bring into the table with this is the fact that, besides any mind set one may have, the kick is (mostly) a physical reaction. I know serotonin and dopamine get released in large amounts when I take MDMA, but is that what's caussing the blood pressure drop? My area of expertise isn't medicine or biochemistry unfortunately, so I can't know for sure. And supposing it's due to serotonin and dopamine, why is it that some people (like me) feels it's effect much stronger than other people? Is it because, maybe, my metabolism? maybe something else?
Thanks for reading. Any kind of feedback is appreciated!
In my not so deep experience with the drug, I came to realize that, when the drug kicks in, we can divide people into two groups: the group that do just fine, and the "oh shit I'm gonna die" group. I know everyone experienced it at least once, but there are some people (like me) that have a tendency to fall in the second group, unfortunately. I googled about it, and it appears that I'm not alone (in fact, it appears that there are a *LOT* of people in this group, much more than I expected).
I wanted to talk about the last 3 times I took MDMA, which is related to the above.
The first one, I took alpha-lipoic acid and vitamin C for preloading. I took 125mg of MDMA. It went all smooth for the first 30-40 minutes, and then all of the sudden BOOOM, it was like a f*cking ninja kicked me in the chin. I started to feel very desoriented, and the familiar feeling of "oh my f*cking shit I'm gonna die" came in. It was very turbulent, and I ended up vomiting (first time it happened to me while on MDMA, also first time I took 125mg at once). After that, I felt great, and I had one of the best nights I can remember. 2-3 hours later I redosed aprox. 30mg, and everything went ok, I didn't feel nausea or anything.
The second one, I took alpha-lipoic acid and Omeprazole (for my stomach). This time I took 100mg MDMA, but I didn't have a good time, because I was very anxious about not vomiting. I didn't vomit, but the whole time I felt like I had a brick in my stomach. I recognize that this may have been due to me beeing so anxious and paranoid, but how can I know for certain? Couldn't it be that I got more "sensitive" to MDMA?
That time I left early and went home, I continued to feel very nauseous and I couldn't sleep, so I tried to induce vomit to put an end to that, but I couldn't.
The third one, I took alpha-lipoic acid, Vitamin E, and Metoclopramide (for nausea and vomits), and 0.25mg of Alprazolam (an anxiolitic). I took 100mg of MDMA. Again, I didn't vomit, but an hour or so later my blood pressure dropped, my legs started to shake and I had to go outside for a while to recover. After that, I felt again like if I had a brick in my stomach, very tired (this probably was because I have a part-time jod and also go to college, and I was really tired, I don't think I can blame MDMA for this), and with strange body temperature shifts (I felt cold, so I put my jacket on, then I felt hot, so I took it off, and again and again like 3 or 4 times). This temperature thing happened to me only once or twice before, and it was very weird. I never felt physically bad when it happened, it was just... odd. I didn't quite understood why it happened, and why it didn't happen to other people.
This time, the brick-in-the-stomach feeling went away by itself when I got home (which gives me a clue that this could be purelly psychological).
So thats my story. I recognize that I'm a bit paranoid and I worry a bit too much about things, my friends always say to me this, but what I tell them is that I'm trying to approach this thing as "scientifically" as I can. To begin with, where is the line between psychologically induced physical discomfort, and *real* physical discomfort? and maybe equally important, what can I (or my friends at the "oh shit I'm gonna die" group) do to alleviate this? Omeprazole and Metoclopramide didn't seem to solve my issue (or maybe I didn't take enough), so what else there is? I was thinking of dividing my dose and taking 3/4 first, and half an hour later the rest, but I don't know how this would affect my roll.
Some facts that I forgot to tell:
- The MDMA I took those 3 times was tested.
- When I redose, I never feel physically bad like when the drug first kicks. Probably because I redose with a smaller amount?
- The first time I took MDMA, I hadn't read anything about it, so I didn't had any kind of bias (positive or negative), and of course I didn't know what the "kick" was. Nevertheless, I felt it, not super strong, but my blood pressure dropped a bit, it scared me a little, and I had to chill out for 5 minutes. Then everything went smooth. What I want to bring into the table with this is the fact that, besides any mind set one may have, the kick is (mostly) a physical reaction. I know serotonin and dopamine get released in large amounts when I take MDMA, but is that what's caussing the blood pressure drop? My area of expertise isn't medicine or biochemistry unfortunately, so I can't know for sure. And supposing it's due to serotonin and dopamine, why is it that some people (like me) feels it's effect much stronger than other people? Is it because, maybe, my metabolism? maybe something else?
Thanks for reading. Any kind of feedback is appreciated!
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