@amapola, thank you for merging it - I didn't quite know where to put it, because I just don't understand what the other thread that talks about specks in the M's is referring to...
taste.
opiates are incredibly bitter and these fakes have no real taste to them.
I can't believe you put something up your nose without tasting it first.
I did taste it... it tasted unusual, and no it wasn't bitter... but I recalled some of the less frequent generics (white 30s, brown/red 80s) having a different chemical taste.
However, these are not bitter AT ALL, it is almost starch or chalk like - but there is a chemical taste in there for sure...
There is an aftertaste/drip taste that is actually VERY VERY familiar, but I can't quite remember which drug it was.... so it was one I haven't done in a while, meaning not klonopin (although the chalky taste could be similar to diazepam). The aftertaste seems to remind me of snorting Ecstasy, but it also has a distinct 'diesel fuel' hint similar to cocaine and especially crack cocaine.
I took a bump (like 1/8 the pill) after licking it and not being able to tell much at all.
The fact that it looks exactly like the picture in the database, but that "normal" MALLINCKRODT 30s do NOT look like the official picture is driving me crazy.
If it is fake, I really want to know what is in it - I checked ecstasy data sites where people test and post what is really in the pill.
There were a few pills listed that aren't sold as ectasy, but with more generic opiates popping up it seems there should be a similar database for fake pills in general...
there was talk about testing for an opiate in it, but I really think it needs to be tested as if it is ecstasy like a dancesafe kit...
I find it highly unlikely that there would be an opiate present in a fake opiate...
After having tried a small bump and having some time pass -
[remember, this is after snorting only approx 1/6 of a single pill]
My best guess would be that it is at least one drug that acts as a stimulant and mild psychedelic / dissociative (vision seems similar to ambien's first 'trip-like' effect when colors become more vivid or change tone).
The mention earlier of possible antagonist causing the withdrawal MAY also be true - as the hot flash/sweating/dull headache reminds me of withdrawal. luckily the withdrawal feeling only lasted a few seconds, but i'm still sweating and the dull headache is starting to fade.
The stimulant quality is also nothing like oxy, it is more like your brain is forced to stay active, as with mushrooms - or really bad withdrawals w/ insomnia.
I'm thinking that if someone IS pressing fake OC's, they are likely using similar low-grade, low-recreational value, and most important low monetary value, drugs that have been used to press fake ecstasy for years...
Stuff like TFMPP, BZP, other piperazines....
Diphenhydramine, amphetamine, pseudo-ephedrine, DXM, etc mixtures..
In fact, even this small bump feels similar to a fake E pill I had in the past... I wish I had one of those ectasy kits, a marquis reagent test (along with a Mecke reagent test, just in case there is an opiate, but I doubt it)...
I may consider sending my remaining tab, although scratched up, to ectasydata.org for GC/MS testing and find exactly whats in it, especially since this seems to be a quickly spreading problem in SW Florida and moving up the entire east coast...