Magickduck
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Ok, so lets say someone practices chaos magick, magick, withcraft, urban shamanism, ritual, certain types of meditation, in order to change reality in conformity with their will.
now lets say this is real, and have seen it work.
What do you guys think of the possible butterfly effect consequences?
For example, simple ritual one may do, in a hidden quote box in case anybody does not want to read about this type of ritual:
So, person has complete faith in the ritual they are about to do. Someone gets a piece of paper. On it they write, "Tomorrow I will meet a woman named Jenny, and we will talk about shoes". Completely innocent right? Then they put a candle on top of the paper, and light it with while speaking the intention. They let the candle burn out, and when the wax is still liquid, they pour it in a glass cup. They let the wax dry completely so it doesn't get in their water. They pour water in the cup, and drink the water.
The next day, as they had planned, they meet a woman named Jenny. They talk about shoes. That is all. Over with.
Seems innocent right, what harm could come from altaring reality in such a simple way?
Well, lets say that day when Jenny discussed shoes with the person, she was supposed to meet her future lover. They were going to have kids together, and their child was going to cure all forms of cancer.
Now besides just that, even if we only effect ourselves and our path, we are part of that divine plan too, so we indirectly hurt (or help - i suppose its just as likely the effects could be positive) others as well.
Chaos magick relys on the belief that all things are chaos and random events happening with no particular unfolding - and that they can manipulate that chaos. But to me its more of an organized unfolding, the divine plan...
Is it our place to be altering things like this? Do we know whats best for ourselves, others, or the world?
Personally, I do not do rituals anymore, save for emergency or healing of very hurt souls. I have spoken it over with God and we both think its best to take a break from that kinda stuff - if not forever.
Or am I completely off here - what do you think?
now lets say this is real, and have seen it work.
What do you guys think of the possible butterfly effect consequences?
For example, simple ritual one may do, in a hidden quote box in case anybody does not want to read about this type of ritual:
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So, person has complete faith in the ritual they are about to do. Someone gets a piece of paper. On it they write, "Tomorrow I will meet a woman named Jenny, and we will talk about shoes". Completely innocent right? Then they put a candle on top of the paper, and light it with while speaking the intention. They let the candle burn out, and when the wax is still liquid, they pour it in a glass cup. They let the wax dry completely so it doesn't get in their water. They pour water in the cup, and drink the water.
The next day, as they had planned, they meet a woman named Jenny. They talk about shoes. That is all. Over with.
Seems innocent right, what harm could come from altaring reality in such a simple way?
Well, lets say that day when Jenny discussed shoes with the person, she was supposed to meet her future lover. They were going to have kids together, and their child was going to cure all forms of cancer.
Now besides just that, even if we only effect ourselves and our path, we are part of that divine plan too, so we indirectly hurt (or help - i suppose its just as likely the effects could be positive) others as well.
Chaos magick relys on the belief that all things are chaos and random events happening with no particular unfolding - and that they can manipulate that chaos. But to me its more of an organized unfolding, the divine plan...
Is it our place to be altering things like this? Do we know whats best for ourselves, others, or the world?
Personally, I do not do rituals anymore, save for emergency or healing of very hurt souls. I have spoken it over with God and we both think its best to take a break from that kinda stuff - if not forever.
Or am I completely off here - what do you think?