My lope wds got really bad around day 7. Very noticeable even with huge oxy usage.
Im out of oxy again, and back on lope. About 150 mgs per day right now. Plan to be around 80 per day in a week or two.
Sucks.
Hey there, was wanting to know if rantidine will work in the same way as cimetidine with loperamide?
Holy shit!!?! 288 mg a day!?! That's running huge risks of QT prolongation and death... I wouldn't be surprised if you're waking up feeling half dead, barely breathing although not like overdosing, and looking pale. You need need to have your heart checked with an EKG and must talk to you doctor about a better option ASAP. This is no joke... Your life is seriously at risk. People have died from excessive lope use
Edit: I just re-read it and it honestly seems your doctor is not understanding the seriousness of the situation especially if you say your feeling the cardio issues. It might take a lot longer than 72 hours to switch to bupe without precipitated withdrawals. If you still haven't switched over you need to find an in patient unit that deals with detox where they can supply other comfort meds to get you through the transition period to Suboxone and stabilized. I honestly don't think this is something you should be attempting on your own. I hope you have someone living with you who is helping you with this at least. If not seriously get to an in patient unit where they can monitor your heart and react quickly in case of emergency
Hthr1991. Beware lope wds last forever. Up to 8 weeks some have said for the acute wds.
My experience switching one opiate for another is that you need to stabilize on the new opiate(bupe) until you are past the acute wds for the old one(lope). Otherwise you feel double crappy wding from lope and bupe together during your taper.
Maybe stay on bupe for 8 weeks, then start tapering.
Thanks Squeaky. Tomorrow will be 2 weeks since I?ve taken Lope and I feel AMAZING! The only side effect is just maybe a bit of laziness not much motivation but overall I feel so much better than I did on loperamide and if I make myself get moving I am fine. Cleaned our whole house esterday and tackling the back porch today! I did end up stabilizing on 8mg subs, 4mg in morning 4 mg in PM. I have no interest in tapering right now. Plan to stay on suboxone long term. I am so thankful I was able to push through those awful withdrawals. I?m the past I?d always rushed out and bout more lope. But the end is near for us wavy lope users there is only one place in town that sells more than 24 in a bottle and thy were running out forcing me to spend way more money on less amounts. I believe before long it will be behind the counter. I wish everybody here the best. Will never touch the stuff again!
I wondered about this myself. If you google the two they seem to both be pgp inhibitors so maybe. In the U.K. cimetidine is prescription only so when ever I used lope I would just drink 500ml of pure white grapefruit juice and that worked perfect as a potentiator to the point that there was no need for anything else beyond maybe some tonic water (quinine in tonic water is also a potentiator) and also makes the grapefruit juice taste better.
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Personally I found that if enough lope is taken with the right potentiators and alongside 600mg pregabalin a day and 100mcg clonidine at bedtime (and maybe 10-20mg diazepam, although I've found this isn't really necessary, but it's nice if you have it) then it can kill all withdrawls, even fentanyl WDs stone dead. The problem is though, that the amount of lope needed gets into dangerous territory (ie. above 200mg/day). It can maybe be used for a day or two a month to bridge gaps in script converge but anything more than that is playing Russian roulette IMHO.